do NOT buff markmen.

Critmaster Garen·Jun 18, 2018·7 votes·884 views

this is season 7 all over again.

youre about to reduce game snowballing and increase game times. this in itself is already helping them out. its way too early to buff individual champions, or even touch their items.

these knee jerk buffs are the same shit that brought us the bot lane coin flip meta for a year.

its exactly the same situation we had back in season 7 when we had huge snowballing issues. marksmen didnt get to be relevant for reasons that had entirely nothing to do with marksmen, you started with kit buffs, then reduced game snowballing and buffed their items.

stop right now before this garbage repeats itself.

11 Comments

GabresolJun 18, 20183 votes

I do not see what'ssupposed to be wrong with this statement. It does make sense to me

heroikcJun 18, 20182 votes

Sounds like a cheesy assassin whining in fear of becoming invalidated...again.

Critmaster GarenJun 18, 20183 votes

{quoted}

Sounds like a cheesy assassin whining in fear of becoming invalidated...again.

when marksmen are overtuned, everything but supports and tanks is invalidated. so yea, no thank you.

we dont need another round of midgame spiking crit marksmen.

heroikcJun 18, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lE406yZr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-18T21:08:59.281+0000)

when marksmen are overtuned, everything but supports and tanks is invalidated. so yea, no thank you.

we dont need another round of midgame spiking crit marksmen.

Well, it's not like it is better being murdered in .2 seconds without realizing it 3 seconds after the fact. And we have to endure another round of snowballs and assassins so...let the cycle REPEAT if that is what people want, willing or no.

Critmaster GarenJun 18, 20183 votes

{quoted}

Well, it's not like it is better being murdered in .2 seconds without realizing it 3 seconds after the fact. And we have to endure another round of snowballs and assassins so...let the cycle REPEAT if that is what people want, willing or no.

the answer to this is to reduce snowball, and not to buff marksmen.

knee jerk buffs to marksmen get us into the same shit as last time. i dont want another fucking year of bot lane meta, where everything else is irrelevant.

heroikcJun 18, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lE406yZr,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T21:18:51.331+0000)

the answer to this is to reduce snowball, and not to buff marksmen.

knee jerk buffs to marksmen get us into the same shit as last time. i dont want another fucking year of bot lane meta, where everything else is irrelevant.

Fair enough, but how does anyone reduce snowball, without buffing marksmen indirectly? Reduce exp/gold gains from kills? Lower burst from Domination tree? reduce true damage runes and items?

Don't get me wrong; I want the snowball quashed so I can play tanks and mages in rift again. I could care less about marksmen. They don't knock people about like pinballs XP

I'd advocate anything to make tanks safer to play again...

Critmaster GarenJun 18, 20183 votes

{quoted}

Fair enough, but how does anyone reduce snowball, without buffing marksmen indirectly? Reduce exp/gold gains from kills? Lower burst from Domination tree? reduce true damage runes and items?

Don't get me wrong; I want the snowball quashed so I can play tanks and mages in rift again. I could care less about marksmen. They don't knock people about like pinballs XP

I'd advocate anything to make tanks safer to play again...

how about reverting the gutting of turrets theyve done with the most recent patch?

they increased turret bounty too, buffed rift herald, and guttet barons damage making it laughable easy to take when youre already ahead.

theyve added so much shit since season 6 and 7 to snowball the game for no reason at all. all with the reasoning of "we want pro players to finnaly fucking do something instead of stalling out games".

they dont realize that pro games will never change, because peoples carreers are at stake for every risk they take.

heroikcJun 18, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lE406yZr,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T21:58:05.319+0000)

how about reverting the gutting of turrets theyve done with the most recent patch?

they increased turret bounty too, buffed rift herald, and guttet barons damage making it laughable easy to take when youre already ahead.

theyve added so much shit since season 6 and 7 to snowball the game for no reason at all. all with the reasoning of "we want pro players to finnaly fucking do something instead of stalling out games".

they dont realize that pro games will never change, because peoples carreers are at stake for every risk they take.

Yeah, too much boon for those who take early leads. All to encourage people who don't want to make detrimental mistakes already.

ParoeJun 19, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lE406yZr,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T21:58:05.319+0000)

how about reverting the gutting of turrets theyve done with the most recent patch?

they increased turret bounty too, buffed rift herald, and guttet barons damage making it laughable easy to take when youre already ahead.

theyve added so much shit since season 6 and 7 to snowball the game for no reason at all. all with the reasoning of "we want pro players to finnaly fucking do something instead of stalling out games".

they dont realize that pro games will never change, because peoples carreers are at stake for every risk they take.

LCS =/= the actual game. In chasing the e$sports dream, riot seems to have forgotten that the base game itself has to be healthy. Who cares if lookey lous pop in and watch the first half hour of an LCS match? Who gives a frag if youtube doesnt like 60 minute long videos?

Speaking of, riot games needs a cohesive and well managed GLOBAL archive of all professional games. None of this "If you want to see the best aatrox in EU roflstomp a rumble gragas top you need to sift through two hours of nothing and three channels for this one game that isnt even dated in the title".