Season 5 Jungle Died the moment this season started.

Ready 2 B Blamed··2 votes·704 views

To be honest,we never know what riot is doing. So far,I think they listen to alot of the rather "dumber" things people say instead of the more smarter ones and even things they for some reason have to think "oh you know what lets implement this so that the players that are NOT good in this specific role are rewarded for being bad at this role". I think we should mention these several things and you should be able to understand that the jungle is indeed the worst role,as we stand in season 5,I actually think it started late season 4 or preseason that Ritogames introduced "timers". When you held tab down you get to see the timers of all the buffs+dragon and baron. This was very controversial at the time,I remember alot of junglers and even pro players themselves complaining that this was a very bad idea as,and I quote, *Very punishing for the more experienced junglers" At the time,I thought it wasn't too bad,If players didn't see the dragon die,they still had to time the dragon. Although,I did find it unecessary since its important you need to go through the trouble of timing buffs.Why? Because people,whether they had vision of it or not or knew when it died,they didn't go through the trouble of timing it and thus that being a "buff" to the jungle,but in reality it was a nerf to good junglers.

At the time,I didn't care,right now...I wish we could start a revolution against whoever came up with that shitty idea.Look at how its escalated! Whether you have vision on dragon and baron or not,you KNOW they have it,you dont have to time it at all! Timers dont matter anymore.How would laners feel if they started making your flash timers globally visible? Junglers had to put up with SO MUCH bullshit,by bullshit I do mean the laners,i know the many stereotypes of this game,but Jungle-Blame is not a stereotype...its the sad excuse of why junglers..hell I'd go as far to say,they probably lose their minds on how much they have to hear top-lane say "holy shit I got ganked and my jungler is worthless trash that doesn't do shit!" usually I just mute em but alot of us are incredibly toxic and follow his example and disorganize the team.(btw if you can manage to stay sane and focused on the game as a jungler,that alone shows you have potential) It doesn't even have to be a gank tho,usually top lanes get solo killed,but enough with examples.

TANK META,CINDERHULK,thats where the apocalypse truly started and my naivety still continued.I was quite overjoyed I got to play my good ol' friend sejuani from the silver days and I was rather successful with nautilus aswell.Then...they came. Noobs,noobs everywhere! picking sejuani and eventually came gragas,No matter what you picked no matter who you played the tank always won.The problem was that the jungler didn't matter they just had to pick something they can survive in(tanks) and get carried,primarily,the problem was that you had to 100% depend on your laners. If you tried to pick a carry jungler(Kha'Zix,Pantheon etc) you would be punished entirely because it would disorganize the ADC-focused comps and so,you would have no real choice but to die trying to scratch the frontlines. As cinderhulk got nerfed and sejuani aswell(for some reason ppl kept permabanning her and to this day they still do wtf is that lol the bans this season have been retarded lol). For the longest time(till recently)Gragas was the only survivor of the tank meta,But the scars it created will never leave us.Since tank meta lasted such a long time,we had assassin meta for a short time,and I finally felt as if maybe we still had a flicker of hope,maybe those of us who knew this role could still manage to,dare I say,have a better chance than people who didn't.

Devourer came out. We...died out. Shyvana put set us ablaze,yi tp'd into our base.Kayle..was shit the entire time,she was banned more than she was played I barely ever saw kayle and when I did it was so underwhelming,I tried it believe me lol.Anyways,devourer has faded by now and the only good champs that can pull it off now is,shyvana(doesn't feel as fucking broken anymore though) and Yi,to some extent.Runeglaive came out and honestly,it gave junglers a bit more power,but really it didn't do much either. Especially since mid-ez became a thing(one of the several times laners steal what power the jungle has)Runeglaive gets nerfed HEY there's a trade off it does 2x more aoe damage to monsters.Which,not many of us cared about.AP junglers had relatively good clear anyways,well it worked fairly well for eve..where is she now? she got nerfed because she was slightly stronger than average.You don't see actual rewarding buffs to junglers very often(RIP fiddle,they could at least try to revert his previous nerfs but NO). Proceeding to unfair nerfs.

I wanna point out,I've pretty much made a time-line of the various "changes" to the jungle. But lets talk about juggernauts,"HOLY SHIT SKARNER IS THE MOST BROKEN CHAMPION IN THE GAME BECAUSE HE'S A JUNGLER THIS IS UNFAIR NERF HIM RITO PLS" what about darius,garen,fiora,gangplank? "dude its top lane,let them have em they deserve love" The lane that has riven,irelia,gnar,maokai,hecarim and vladimir already? oh yeah,i didn't forget rumble either.I'm not saying those champs are outright fucking broken btw(riven is) I'm saying they have alot of hyper-carries or just overall good picks to carry with.The first 4 i mentioned though,are broken as living fuck.Now let me make this clear,I dont care about Skarner but he is a jungler and I see he is broken,but he shouldn't be the one focused with the nerfs(now that I think about it skarner permaban or free pick for an unexperienced jungler is also slightly punishing).Rito.Seriously,5.17 those top-laners haven't gotten much of a nerf at all and 5.18 it looks like your trying to "Tune them" not straight up nerf them but try to slightly lower some things and slightly raise something else.How many times have I seen Darius heal 1k of his health?Its like some sick game where they give all the other roles more rewards and than give them straight up broken champs to specifically make jungling harder.At this point,(and every other point) jungle had no carry potential.

Ok, so what do we have? Nidalee i hated that bitch she needed a tap on the wrist..nerfs her (I was joking btw I think she was the only rewarding champ we had)Since,Nidalee was pretty hard to play.Elise,slightly less hard but still good champ for good junglers,next patch "5.18" she is due for yet another nerf,much larger this time,first time around they cut her Q's human form,essentially,in half. Which,wasn't such a big deal I think it made her less banned so I was fine with it.She wasn't THAT op to begin with.If the new nerf comes out,she wont be played again.Thats it lol.What other junglers do we have? "throws list" nevermind every other jungler thats currently good isn't rewarding or skillful.I swear people in the comments are gonna mention stupid junglers like "Udyr or Fizz" and for the longest time,people thought Fizz Jungle was better off AD "at one point he was" but recently,ppl been playing Fizz again,failed cuz they thought AD Fizz jungle was good just cuz it was good top.You know what riot accomplished with all this?Not,rewarding or making the jungle a more viable role,not making the role more tactiful,they reduced the jungle to ashes and the only thing we got out of it was...Variety. The sick bastards only wanted variety! Every single change we had this season,that ruined us was simply for variety! Listen RITOGAMES! If you really cannot make the Jungle an equal role to every other and make alot of variety for it. You need better workers for this,you need jungle specialists.

Anyways,thats all I have to say. I know I'm gonna get alot of shit from people who don't understand the jungle or from lesser experienced junglers.Roles like adc and top lane whine alot about their role being difficult even though their literally the easiest roles in the game BY FAR<-.(I don't mean mechanically btw adc is hard to play mechanically but still lol anyone can learn mechanics quickly).I'd like to say thanks alot if you actually read that entire rant.For those who understand me,it'll be better season 6 i'm sure of it,chin up.Sayonara

8 Comments

HaIlMonitor4 votes

The real issue is the player base don't want junglers to carry the game. That is why carry junglers are hated they want us to hold there hands gank all 3 lanes at once and some how soak up all damage and cc well setting up penta kills for the ADC. Also every single item that was great for us was abused by laners because of the pro scene ,Ez with runeglave and CinderHulk top lane, and then is nerfed because it. Except for devour which is why people hate it because for the love of god junglers cant have one thing that only they can use successfully.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I never really liked devourer anyways,its kinda dumb it supports a playstyle that doesn't fit the jungle.I'm not discriminating devourer altogether,back then Feral Flare was a fine enough item I just don't like the style.

HaIlMonitor1 votes

Devourer is actually a really great item. It forces the jungler to contest dragon, scuttles, keep gold off the map, and if they are smart gank.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Early pressure isn't prioritized though.Also,it makes you vulnerable to the enemy jungler and it typically forces you on weak counter-ganking champions since most of the champs that typically go devourer are weak early(except for shyvana,thus the reason she was so OP).Dragon contest was already an important aspect and a good jungler will try to take crabs when its most efficient already.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I should probably add when Devourer is most effective,which is actually its greatest con.Devourer is primarily good and pretty much only good when you stack it as fast as possible.For that to be possible,your laners should be slightly winning lane or if not,surviving lane.If your getting stomped you pretty much lost the game,not even exaggerrating(well i suppose its still possible to win if you finally get your stacks done 40minutes in and your team has scaled and you guys make a big miracle comeback).

AsC4lK51fe3 votes

How about if you writer these long rants you actually put spaces AFTER PERIODS. PLEASE.

Angry Monster2 votes

i would like something resembling paragraphs, that are used to break up ideas and sections

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Is that alot better for you guys?I didn't think this would concern many people on the internet where we basically write gibberish and still understand lol.

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