Riot, Junglers forgetting smite absolutely must be answered.

WoonStruck··2 votes·680 views

This simple mistake wastes the time of 9 other players, and its a very easy one to make.

Had it happen for the first time the other day, and the game is literally 4v5. Not because you can't smite camps, but because you end up level 3 when everyone else is level 9. What the actual fuck. You've pigeon-holed junglers so insanely hard that you literally cannot function without smite.

Because of this, EVERYONE involved gets their time wasted if the jungler forgets smite.


Due to the jungle essentially requiring smite, its obvious that the one who gets assigned to jungle should automatically have one of summoner 1 summoner 21 summoner 7 summoner 3 summoner 14 summoner 12 summoner 6 automatically replaced with summoner 11. I would not include summoner 4 because the large majority of champions and players take it, making it more likely to replace the summoner spell that they would not be using while jungling anyway. The large majority of the time you have to switch to summoner 6 on the relevant junglers anyway, so that's why I would not include that, in addition to the few champs that prefer summoner 4 +summoner 6

This absolutely would not stop you from taking ignite or TP in the jungle, if that's your thing. It would just mean that Smite would be forced onto the jungler, which is in no way a bad thing since its now required for junglers to function anyway.

You might make the argument "What if I want to swap roles in champion select?"

That's easily addressed as well. Have another 'trade' icon above where the champion trade icon is that is exclusive to the summoner that is jungling. Doing so automatically forces smite in place of one of the non-flash spells for the summoner receiving the jungle role from him/her. For convenience, it will switch smite with the most common summoner for the previous jungler's received role, but it may be switched with any other summoner at any time. This is in case of last-minute trades so you don't accidentally end up as a top/mid/jungle/support with Smite.

Is there really a reason this should not be done? It should absolutely be included with the client update if another solution hasn't already been included.

12 Comments

OneMustFall2 votes

I don't understand why smite is required to buy jungle items in the first place. That is what should be done away with as people can just take smite and get the JG items in lane anyway if they want. If they got the items without smite, they wouldn't be able to use the active so why would they bother?

Suleiman771 votes

To be fair its just wasting the time of 5 people. 99% of the time the other team will be happy to take the free lp. [slayer-jinx-wink]

WoonStruck1 votes

I mean, if you're a casual who enjoys wins where they don't deserve it, then yeah.

People like that tend to be part of the problem with this community.

Not to mention how most people will just /remake now. Queue times and Champ Select still would have wasted everyone's time. That timeframe easily reaches 10-15 minutes in many cases.

Suleiman771 votes

I mean, if you're a casual who enjoys wins where they don't deserve it, then yeah.

I'm pretty sure everyone enjoy's free wins. Also, its not like I don't get losses I don't deserve?? People AFK or fuck up on both sides of the game.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

How would you determine the jungler player? Who is to says the first and third player do not choose to swap because of experience? The most that can be done is a message that tells everyone on your team. "No smite detected." This would be obnoxious and annoying.

WoonStruck1 votes

The game determines the jungler to start out. You simply swap your role with someone during champion select if you both agree to switch who has the jungle role.


Why would someone choose to not to swap roles if they wanted jungle and it was not given to them? Choosing jungle when you are not picked or willingly swapping with the also willing jungler is called trolling.

"Do not choose to swap because of experience"

Why would this even be a thing?

Matezoide1 votes

Iust go duo top or something then, i dunno. Is League that static?

Reaper Soraka1 votes

Defeating two jungle camps within the first 3 minutes replaces your D spell with Smite. (Everyone knows F is for Flash. ;)

Something like this would be nice, I often forget to change my spells, runes and mastery pages. I'm just not that interested in the 'pre-game strategy' that Riot wants us to be interested in. Unfortunately, they picture that pre-game strategy as a huge selling point to us, since it gives us some customization over the champions.

YOU LOST LMAO1 votes

cant auto-put smite to jungle roles, players in champ select asks if they can jg, and are sometimes role swapped

WoonStruck1 votes

That's why I offered a solution when players desire to swap roles.

Take the time to read the whole post if you're going to take the time to comment on it.

TouchFluffyTaìl1 votes

It is also up to you and the rest of your team to remind the jungler to take smite if they don't have it selected. Your jg not having it is partially your fault for not reminding them.

WoonStruck1 votes

Considering Smite is required to function in the jungle, Smite should automatically be in place on junglers. Its as simple as that.


Why shouldn't it be automatically included? Nobody has a reason, but nobody wants a quality of life change that would positively affect everyone, and negatively affect nobody at all?

I swear the boards get more and more fickle.

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