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Kai Guy2 votes

I agree with you and riot but I doubt the community will receave it well. I have seen a good amount of tilt when I tell folks things like.

  1. the arrow indicator for direction where eve is only shows up once W has cooked.
  2. Q has longer range then her detection.
  3. W providing a 65% slow is more then adequate to gap close if your remotely positioning well. You can cast Q then put W down befor it lands from outside of detection.
  4. Her ulti can be used to gap close aggressively as well as for a nuke/execute or escape.
  5. Being Ward proof is a strong mechanic for junglers.
ZapMyHeart2 votes

W is still a handicap. Eve is still relatively useless if the enemy jungler isn't braindead. Easily abused pre-6. Can't countergank well (up to a certain point).

Laners still don't respect Eve's burst damage, which is why they overextend and get gibbed in the ribs. As an assassin, all it takes is a few kills for Eve to have her way with all 3 of the enemy lanes. Again, she wouldn't be able to do that if the enemy jungler/laner isn't braindead. Her ability to wreck is in correlation with how stupid the enemy team is.

Kai Guy1 votes

I feel that your neglecting to note that she can work off teammates really well. CC sets her up for more hard cc. she has burst, she can chunk most targets with E mid game. using over extending as a reason eve is not good is discrediting the entirety of the jungle role. Most junglers require extension + they get hampered by wards. W is not a handicap if used right, its broadcasted but that means nothing when its unavoidable.

ZapMyHeart1 votes

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I feel that your neglecting to note that she can work off teammates really well. CC sets her up for more hard cc. she has burst, she can chunk most targets with E mid game. using over extending as a reason eve is not good is discrediting the entirety of the jungle role. Most junglers require extension + they get hampered by wards. W is not a handicap if used right, its broadcasted but that means nothing when its unavoidable.

By that extension, other junglers could work off their teammates as well. CC sets them up for ganks well. They also have burst, with added tankiness. Should all the other junglers get nerfed by your argument?

Why isn't your team dropping red wards in the brush to negate the enemy team's wards to set up a gank? Even then, trinkets have a high cooldown, so it's not like the enemy will avoid a gank forever.

W is rather useless. It takes 2.5s and easily dodge if you know how to dodge a slim skillshot. It telegraphs that Eve is lurking around and even then, run into a brush or hide behind a minion and you're fine. That said, if you didn't drop a red ward in the brush, you deserve to get ganked and die. Same if you didn't drop a trinket in brush against ganks from non-Eve junglers.

Nut on my Butt1 votes

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W is still a handicap. Eve is still relatively useless if the enemy jungler isn't braindead. Easily abused pre-6. Can't countergank well (up to a certain point).

Laners still don't respect Eve's burst damage, which is why they overextend and get gibbed in the ribs. As an assassin, all it takes is a few kills for Eve to have her way with all 3 of the enemy lanes. Again, she wouldn't be able to do that if the enemy jungler/laner isn't braindead. Her ability to wreck is in correlation with how stupid the enemy team is.

Actually, her winrate increases significantly with ranking. I think this is mostly due to her lack of ability to make early impact like some aggressive jungles who exploit the lack of safeplay, awareness, and jungle pathing knowledge at lower elos

Troll for Trump2 votes

She's not really good at being a proactive carry alone. Not to the degree of other champions.

Compared to other assassins, she needs a lot more set-up and team help.

She's not horrible, but she's not particularly OP. Just kinda average

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

I mean, like Ornn, buffed 3 times in a row... They will never learn.

Rip Rengo 20161 votes

Expunging a target will refund Allure's mana cost**. If the target is cursed for at least 2.5 seconds she also charms them**, as well as applying additional effects based on the target type.

I think the curse to charm should be reduced with rank.. even if it means other parts of her W get nerfed..

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