For assassins, it's better to take Thunderlord's Decree or Deathfire Touch?

YumaS2Astral··2 votes·8,901 views

I can't decide which keystone is the better. Personally I find Thunderlord's Decree to be much more appealing, but if I take it, I have to take the flat penetration masteries, which on my opinion are much worse than the percentage masteries that the ferocity tree offers.

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Catastrop3 votes

Thunderlord's for assassins that have upfront burst like Diana, Deathfire ones with delayed like Akali.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Thunderlord's for assassins that have upfront burst like Diana, Deathfire ones with delayed like Akali.

The assassins I usually play are Kha'Zix and Fizz

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I'd probably go for Deathfire Touch on Fizz.

IIRC, his W-enhanced autoattacks apply on-spell effects.

Catastrop1 votes

Thunderlord's then. Although, in a more AA oriented lane then Deathfire is better for Fizz.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Thunderlord's then. Although, in a more AA oriented lane then Deathfire is better for Fizz.

Thunderlord for Kha'Zix then?

Meep Man1 votes

Yes. Any Assassin to where you will quickly cast 3 spells/basic attacks want Thunderlord.

Catastrop1 votes

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Thunderlord for Kha'Zix then?

Yeah.

GodSword of Doom2 votes

i play thunderlords on akali and its the only mastery that works affectively with her , without ut i usually run somewhere between 11 6 and 4 9 but with it i had a 22 0 game and a 13 0 game it allows such burst that the defender can heal or sustain fast enough , thunderlords decree is best for champs that spam abilities in a fast sucession but death fire is extremely powerful on champs like zed lux and pther poke before ripping them in half the percentage damage over time is overall bad on somone who needs to get in then out in a second.

PH03NIX1 votes

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i play thunderlords on akali and its the only mastery that works affectively with her , without ut i usually run somewhere between 11 6 and 4 9 but with it i had a 22 0 game and a 13 0 game it allows such burst that the defender can heal or sustain fast enough , thunderlords decree is best for champs that spam abilities in a fast sucession but death fire is extremely powerful on champs like zed lux and pther poke before ripping them in half the percentage damage over time is overall bad on somone who needs to get in then out in a second.

same for me ....

Big Lincoln2 votes

isn't the flat pen better vs squishy targets since they don't often have high resists?

the % pen would do you better against bruisers but iirc it ends up being a smaller amount vs the targets you really want to pick off. and it has worse synergy with void staff or whisper items

flat pen is also prob better for any assassin that wants to spike early.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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isn't the flat pen better vs squishy targets since they don't often have high resists?

the % pen would do you better against bruisers but iirc it ends up being a smaller amount vs the targets you really want to pick off. and it has worse synergy with void staff or whisper items

flat pen is also prob better for any assassin that wants to spike early.

Yeah but the problem is that it is such a small amount of flat penetration, I didn't made the calculations yet to know if the % penetration is better.

Big Lincoln1 votes

yeah i just looked at it

that is way too low for something that needs to scale up from a tiny base amount

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