Come on man, 5 solos vs 5 man pre made, this is great match making balancing.... There was nothing wrong with solo queue, now ranked is a complete joke with dynamic queue, come on Riot please remove the shit system and just bring back solo queue because I do not want to go through unfair advantage games ever again.
And do not tell me the system does not do this because it just happened...
Dominick Destine14 votesIt was a terrible idea to remove Solo Queue and force solo players to go up against 5-man premades.
Stacona9 votesPlus there is also ranked 5, if you want to play with friends ranked 5 is for that, where as solo queue should be solo queue- i don't even like duos being there but at least 2 man is no where near as bad as 3+ man... I really want them to quickly bring back solo/duo queue because in the meantime I cannot play ranked or take it seriously right now, so I will be taking a hiatus from league until then
i have a PBE so i may screw around with jihn and new shen every so often until Riot brings back solo queue to live
Drugoth1 votesBut if those friends go to ranked 5s then they can't stomp solo queuers for fun... :P
Itadaki Seieki5 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kyjhrGWE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-15T20:00:12.057+0000)
It was a terrible idea to remove Solo Queue and force solo players to go up against 5-man premades.
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They said, and I quote,
You have a 95% chance to fight against another premade.
TBH, I feel like this Board has a curse, because a TON of people, which apparently makes up the rest of the 5% are getting matched against a premade.
Dominick Destine5 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Master,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kyjhrGWE,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-01-15T20:43:03.176+0000)
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They said, and I quote,
You have a 95% chance to fight against another premade.
Let me explain the basics of reality to you; The higher brackets you go, the more likely it is people will be an organized team because, surprise surprise, organized teams play better than disorganized random soloers. Effectively forcing everyone to either join a team or get fcked by the new system. It is NOT option to solo queue vs team queue, it is effectively now a TEAM queue because that is the only way you will ever win against an organized team.
There should be a ZERO percent change to fight against an organized team. This was a terrible idea, easily the worst idea that Riot has ever implemented. Horrid job Riot.
Linna Excel3 votesCome on man, 5 solos vs 5 man pre made, this is great match making balancing.... There was nothing wrong with solo queue, now ranked is a complete joke with dynamic queue
I think it's pretty clear that riot doesn't want people without friends playing the game or else there'd be a make friends button which sends out about 10 friend requests to people of your elo and play roughly at the same time you do. There'd also be a built in voice chat as well. But there's not because you are expected to bring your own team and provide a voice chat feature for them because they are too lazy to set up a mumble server.
Sakura Mirage3 votesYou should play with friends you can't be solo all your life in anything you do. They are encouraging life skills in a video game which is a great idea. If you don't have friends make friends or find friends that want to play. Also gets rid of toxic players as they will not move up as they have no friends because well they rage and blame etc.
TlT1T1T1T1T1TlT3 votes[{quoted}](name=Support Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kyjhrGWE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-15T20:37:38.024+0000)
You should play with friends you can't be solo all your life in anything you do. They are encouraging life skills in a video game which is a great idea. If you don't have friends make friends or find friends that want to play. Also gets rid of toxic players as they will not move up as they have no friends because well they rage and blame etc.
So... "support tactics", you see, there is a "TEAM QUEUE" and a now "DYNAMIC SOLO QUEUE". What you are saying, if I can read your nonsense correctly, is that we should have a "TEAM QUEUE" and a "TEAM QUEUE 2" ?
3lancer1 votesRegardless of dynamic queue, it's always nice to have a group of friends to play with, which is what Riot is encouraging.
Kaioko3 votesThe chance of you being on a team with 5 solo players and going vs a team of 5 is virtually nonexistent. What will happen however is that you could be on a team of 4 + 1 and go up against a team of 3 + 2. The new system wants to allow people to play ranked game if they only have 3 or 4 people.
The Queen Viper1 votesHe doesn't get it.
#whoosh
brad1 votes[{quoted}](name=Snake on bush,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kyjhrGWE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-01-15T20:41:04.859+0000)
He doesn't get it.
#whoosh
i understand the sarcasm in his title, and realize that he actually doesnt like dynamic queue
watch the video
Amoc2 votesFirst off, I absolutely love the new champ select as a system. It's such a simple and elegant solution to one of the biggest problems League has faced since day 1.
Allowing teams to queue up against solo/duo players, however, is pretty dumb. There's a reason why other multiplayer games go to great lengths to prevent this sort of thing, and that's because it generally leads to horribly lopsided games. I understand that this at least offers some flexibility to people who want to play with friends but only have 3-4 people online at a time, but if you're going to allow it then you have to make it a 100% chance to be matched against a similarly formed team, otherwise you're generally just screwing solo queue players.
As for Riot's statement that they think this game should be played with friends, that's moronic. There's obviously a huge portion of the player base that's simply not interested in this (myself included). I want to be able to log in and play whenever I want for however I want without having to put a stupid headset on and deal with people that outside of game I probably wouldn't want anything to do with. Let us play the way we want without punishing us for it. Thanks.
Aeszarck2 votesIf you play on a team, your MMR gets inflated. Basically, your team's MMR's are averaged together, and then a flat value is added to it depending on how many people are on your team. Therefore, if in the unlikely situation that a five-man premade gets put up against five solo queuers, the five solo queuers are going to have a substantially higher average MMR than the team, and are likely to be more mechanically skilled than most or all of the people on the opposing team. Does this balance out? Is enhanced communication really better than being mechanically disadvantaged? Well, duo queue was pretty balanced before. People were able to climb pretty well both doing solo queue and duo queue, and there were many proponents for each. Solo queuers got the benefit of having the average MMR of games, and duo queuers had the benefit of increased communication between eachother in exchange for one or both having lower MMR than the average of the game. Many people advised against duo queueing because they saw giving the enemy team a MMR advantage was too great a penalty just for having better communication. Now, imagine that MMR boost x4, give or take. I think that solo queuers will be relatively balanced against multi-queuers because the MMR difference will be enough to counteract the advantage gained by better communication. Riot was able to balance solo queue versus duo queue well before, and I can trust them to balance solo, duo, trio, quadra, and penta-queueing as well.
The Queen Viper1 votesHe doesn't get it.
#whoosh
GundayMonday1 votesHe is a weird name. Stop talking in third person, it makes you look stupid.
The Queen Viper1 votesWhy do you think "he" is a name?
Why do you think I'm talking in 3rd person?
... whatever you are smoking, it's not healthy for you bro.
GundayMonday1 voteswhoosh :-)
xanax50mg1 votesAbsolutely agree this shit is fucking stupid why do i have to play aganist 4 or 5 premades who are probably on live chat or something talking to each other where to go and shit and im just a solo player this drives me crazy when i go up aganist premades they always there for each other helping each other camping lanes they drive us all mad and we surrender at 20 if they dont finish the game before that