"Fizz's E/Tahm Kench's W is a free Zhonya"

YumaS2Astral··4 votes·544 views

Don't understand why people say that.

Neither of them can save you from delayed or DoT damage.

For example, if your ally is affected by Malzahar's Malefic Visions and Tahm Kench devours him, your ally is still going to die.

Also, devouring a target that has been marked by Zed and dealt enough damage to die will not save him.

14 Comments

The Deckowner2 votes

zhonyas puts u into stasis, fizz e and tahm w makes u untargetable. stasis makes u untargetable, invulnerable and unable to move/use ability/activate item, while untargetable makes u only unable to be targeted, that is the difference.

Penns1 votes

Because they find those spells annoying, so they need to be pictured as overpowered as possible and nerfed asap even tho they arent even strong lol

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Uh... Fizz can dodge a Zed ult proc with his E... Both the applying the stack part and the activating part.

YumaS2Astral3 votes

[{quoted}](name=da plazma pika,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktTg4Eh3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-31T13:43:24.852+0000)

Uh... Fizz can dodge a Zed ult proc with his E... Both the applying the stack part and the activating part.

But if he has already been marked, Fizz's E cannot save him. He will take damage from Zed's ult nevertheless.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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But if he has already been marked, Fizz's E cannot save him. He will take damage from Zed's ult nevertheless.

No... if he E's when the mark will proc, he doesn't take damage. I've done it before.

Fisherman Fízz2 votes

If he has the deathmark active on him he cant dodge it with E dunno what you talking about...

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fisherman Fízz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktTg4Eh3,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-31T14:45:31.793+0000)

If he has the deathmark active on him he cant dodge it with E dunno what you talking about...

He can't? Pretty sure he can... proof?

Fisherman Fízz2 votes

How about you do some reseach or test yourself in a real game or a custom with a friend... I know what I'm talking Fizz

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fisherman Fízz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktTg4Eh3,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-31T15:12:49.058+0000)

How about you do some reseach or test yourself in a real game or a custom with a friend... I know what I'm talking Fizz

.................... PROOOOOOF???????????

I'll accept it, but i'd rather you show me a video or something instead.

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=da plazma pika,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktTg4Eh3,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-31T18:41:39.416+0000)

.................... PROOOOOOF???????????

I'll accept it, but i'd rather you show me a video or something instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1yOqynaiwI Hope this satisfies you I had the time to get a friend to help me do this just to show you since I couldn't find any video on this matter.

fééd l0rd1 votes

The problem about Fizz e is that he can go E, Zhonias, E. Ofc he needs some cdr but it is not that hard to get. Remember, Fizz has shit tons of options.

Posui Gart1 votes

You still can't do anything to him if you have no DOT effects, he is actually immune to most spells(good luck hitting him with Syndra /Karthus /Caitlyn ult ) AND he moves. Tahm counters Zed not because of mark dodge(that doesn't work, as you said), but because when Zed ults ADC Tahm just eats him so Zed can't do any damage for the mark.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

idk about tahm kench w thats a stretch. bur fizz E in some situations. is a free zhonya.

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