Even when you're ahead, you're behind.

Lost R··4 votes·732 views

More defeatism in the League, because the community seems ever more determined to try and find new lows to stoop to. This one happened in my most recent game. We're ahead in kills, dragons, objectives and we have one baron. We've smashed the enemy inhibitor and they've only taken one of our turrets. Then half of us get killed in a 4v5 teamfight, with us the five.

"We can't win. FF GG."

And then one of the players starts to try and force a surrender for the rest of the game, and when that doesn't work they start running head on into the enemy fountain, intentionally feeding the enemy and trying to force a loss, and yes, we did lose that game.

Are you fucking serious?! We had such a massive lead on the enemy, and with the slightest speed bump you're ready to throw in the towel and piss yourself stupid in the corner?! How much of a lead to you need?! Are you so scared shitless that even an empty coat rack scares you?!

I don't have a problem with the game itself; what issues I do have are being addressed or will be addressed in the near future. My problem lies with the community; there's an ever growing malignant tumor in the community of defeatists and what are basically bullies; people who want victory handed over to them without contest so they can wank their wafer-thin egos, and the slightest tribulation makes them cower in the corner and cry. Unlike gameplay issues, Riot can't fix the problem with a patch. It's a mentality that is distressingly gaining traction, and it's gotten to the point that I can't have one single game in ANY game mode, be it normals, ranked, Dominion, Twisted Treeline, ARAM, Black Water Brawlers or whatever other game mode du jour Riot will cook up in the future without someone crying defeat before defeat actually happens and then forcing it on the rest of the team when they say nay. It's fair to no one; it's not only unfair to me and the rest of my team, but it's also unfair to the enemy. Stop it. You are ruining the game for everyone else who has come to actually play.

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MercuryCannons2 votes

most of the league community isn't emotionally stable enough to play out a ranked game.

The second things go wrong they want to quit, even if they're winning. They only way to play out 1 sided stomps where there is ZERO chance they lose. Even then when somebody dies they start bitching even if it's 30-1 and we're seconds away from killing their nexus.

Lost R1 votes

That's one of the reasons why I don't like to play ranked. The "it's just normals" argument ceased to be an excuse in my first year of League when I realized in ranked, people acted MULTITUDES worse than they did in normal, and that was just 2013. Now they're even worse than that.

Cosmic Cocaine1 votes

This is ELO hell. I experience it too.

FTMHukY4Ps1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=krhQ7Mii,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-05T18:37:11.610+0000)

More defeatism in the League, because the community seems ever more determined to try and find new lows to stoop to. This one happened in my most recent game. We're ahead in kills, dragons, objectives and we have one baron. We've smashed the enemy inhibitor and they've only taken one of our turrets. Then half of us get killed in a 4v5 teamfight, with us the five.

"We can't win. FF GG."

And then one of the players starts to try and force a surrender for the rest of the game, and when that doesn't work they start running head on into the enemy fountain, intentionally feeding the enemy and trying to force a loss, and yes, we did lose that game.

Are you fucking serious?! We had such a massive lead on the enemy, and with the slightest speed bump you're ready to throw in the towel and piss yourself stupid in the corner?! How much of a lead to you need?! Are you so scared shitless that even an empty coat rack scares you?!

I don't have a problem with the game itself; what issues I do have are being addressed or will be addressed in the near future. My problem lies with the community; there's an ever growing malignant tumor in the community of defeatists and what are basically bullies; people who want victory handed over to them without contest so they can wank their wafer-thin egos, and the slightest tribulation makes them cower in the corner and cry. Unlike gameplay issues, Riot can't fix the problem with a patch. It's a mentality that is distressingly gaining traction, and it's gotten to the point that I can't have one single game in ANY game mode, be it normals, ranked, Dominion, Twisted Treeline, ARAM, Black Water Brawlers or whatever other game mode du jour Riot will cook up in the future without someone crying defeat before defeat actually happens and then forcing it on the rest of the team when they say nay. It's fair to no one; it's not only unfair to me and the rest of my team, but it's also unfair to the enemy. Stop it. You are ruining the game for everyone else who has come to actually play.

But as a counterargument, people play games to have fun. Losing for 20 to 30 minutes is not really fun. I'm my opinion, if it's normals, there's a point where you won't want to play the match anymore and will call for a surrender. If you're getting royally screwed, feel free. But in ranked, you fight to the end. I've had ranked games last 70 or 80 minutes and end in a loss. Was I happy? No. Did I have fun? Not really, but I signed on for a ranked game and I got one.

Intentional feeders have a system in the works to catch them in the long run but I don't think it's doing much. It stops them about as much as Leaverbuster stops afks in promos.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

He meant the team that is winning has 1 bad play, so then someone on the winning team tries to surrender

FTMHukY4Ps1 votes

Yeah, and that is stupid. Those kinds of people should be punished but what I'm saying is not much will be done to them because there's not much that can be done until the Tribunal returns. Even then, I don't think intentional feeding goes into the current Tribunal.

Lost R1 votes

That's the thing, though. We were winning, HANDILY, before we had one slip-up and the enemy killed half of the team and routed the rest. That was it; they didn't get objectives in the interim period before our respawns, and they didn't get another dragon or baron. Hell, they were still defending mid from the minions charging their broken inhibitor. And that warranted a surrender from one guy who then proceeded to intentionally throw the game because his multiple surrender votes failed 1/4.

Everyone's perception of fun is different, but mine generally involves having a good, well-earned fight. I like being able to overcome impossible odds - as stressful as that can be at times. I don't have fun if the game ends up being too easy, and I equally despise it if that happened on the enemy team. If fun for you requires an effortless, mindless, absolute crushing victory, then there is something deeply wrong with you and you shouldn't be playing this type of game.

disregardable1 votes

No. People like you are why we need 3/2 surrender votes. "I don't want to play if it's not fun" isn't a bad mentality. It's pretty much par for the course in video games.

Voidgolem1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=krhQ7Mii,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-05T18:50:21.255+0000)

No. People like you are why we need 3/2 surrender votes. "I don't want to play if it's not fun" isn't a bad mentality. It's pretty much par for the course in video games.

an acceptable mindset provided it's not ranked.

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