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Literally everything has now become the support's job

Lost R··101 votes·6,334 views

Turns out, no one wants to do anything anymore except bathe in the accolades of victory. I get entire teams full of ADCs and assassins who can't and won't do the literal one and only thing they will ever focus on, and the few that do attempt to can't even do that.

No one pushes.

No one defends.

No one goes for objectives.

No one plays the tank.

No one has range.

No one has magic damage.

No one has crowd control.

No one has armor piercing.

No one has Grevious Wounds.

No one has Magic Penetration.

No one is the support.

No one wards.

No one ward sweeps.

No one watches the minimap.

No one scouts.

And as it turns out, no one wants to actually deal damage, either. They just want the kills. Every fucking game I've been in since the pre-season, all the assassin mains do the least amount of damage out of everyone on the team, and since the entire team is composed of nothing but assassins, NO ONE DEALS DAMAGE. They expect the support to do it all; every last goddamn thing I listed, AND MORE. And then they have the balls to come on the forums and complain about how imbalanced the game is. YOU ALL ARE THE IMBALANCED ONES.

To make matters worse, people have abandoned reading anything in the changelogs, and are forgetting what any and all champions do. It's like Alzheimer's has affected the entire community.

243 Comments

Spice POWAH77 votes

No one is the support.

uh, that's DEFINITELY the support's job...

traloop36 votes

He means they wanna play lux or brand support and build full dmg with no sightstone

Specter0273 votes

OMG I thought this only happened to me in Ranked. Cannot remember the last time I had a good experience with Lux support. And half the time I find my AP Support who is really a poor-man's mid doesn't even have a SS, making me wish I had bought the green smite.

Draqone6 votes

Honestly? Brand support is the way to go in ranked.

Brand can push waves, has magic damage, can get Morellos for grevious wounds, can defend and hold turret on his own, builds magic penetration and % health true damage to bust the enemy tanks.

If you look at the OPs post, Brand basically does everything your stupid team will not do.

It Hertz When IP3 votes

Brand also has no sustain, only one CC that requires setup and a clear line of sight for a skillshot, and can't tank for beans.

He can do OK as a support but only if your team comp permits, like if you have a tank/juggernaut toplane or jungle and your team has enough CC already. Taking brand support into a team of ADCs and assassins is just making things worse.

TheIronRevenant2 votes

can't tank for beans

item 3027 item 3116 item 3151 item 3157

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It Hertz When IP4 votes

Any champion can build those. Brand has no inherent DR, no defense scalings, no defensive abilities, no self-sustain or shields... BRAND cannot tank for beans.

If you're going to just point to items, you may as well claim that Kog'Maw (item 3022 item 3025 item 3071 item 3053) can tank.

gileskd1 votes

I'm pretty sure that would be a bruiser build kogmaw tank kogmaw would be item 3075 item 3109 item 3742 item 3068 item 3512 item 3026

It Hertz When IP3 votes

Eh, I was trying to pick things he could at least use.

softest boy13 votes

Those fake supports infuriate me. If you're going to play support, play a support. Don't use the role as an excuse for an additional AP carry.

doiminat0r36002 votes

Sometimes you gotta play an AP carry, after sightstone of course. You can't trust these scrubs to carry you when they don't do damage.

Miror B6 votes

{quoted}

Those fake supports infuriate me. If you're going to play support, play a support. Don't use the role as an excuse for an additional AP carry.

See, I disagree with that notion (with me being someone who regularly plays "off-meta" supports like ekko/lb/maokai). If your support builds a sightstone/helps the team get ahead, does it really matter who they're playing? While I do get that there are some people who will take the support role just to troll around with things like zed/yasuo, that doesn't make all non-standard support players evil.

Rew7112 votes

If you want to build pure AP, its best to just chose a Support character then. If you want to go with a non-specified-Support champion then you get mostly support items. I like going Taric, Bard, and Nunu support. Nunu because of his constant MS + AS boosts and his MS + AS reductions. I finally found my counter to Jinx. :D

Lost R4 votes

No. One of the more devious types of players are the ones who enter the queue with "fill" to pirate a role from someone else or hold the game hostage to ransom a role they want. I'm hoping Riot creates an effective way to punish these players; I encountered three of them during my placement games alone.

Mage supports are what I call artillery supports. They're dedicated to dealing ranged damage and relentlessly poking the enemy, focusing on volume over damage. Brand is a really good one, since most everyone wants to endlessly teamfight like rabid dogs these days, and Brand severely punishes the enemy for bunching up (which they do because no one has actual range and can only focus one enemy at a time). And the best thing about a Brand support is even a glancing blow with an attack burns a full stack of Tribute, AND deals percent damage. It does not take much for him to start snowballing even as the support.

Oglaf30 votes

Also remember that everything is the Support's fault, too.

Lost R5 votes

Yeah, that, too. I had the lowest number of deaths one game with the highest kill participation by a mile and a half, including ACTUAL kills, and everyone on the team was trying to rally the enemy team into reporting me for intentionally feeding and trolling because they ran butt first into a teamfight I told them to avoid. (the context being the enemy got Elder Dragon it was a dumb ass idea to try and teamfight against that, which is exactly what they did)

Oglaf3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RX04kkdZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-11-13T01:26:54.448+0000)

Yeah, that, too. I had the lowest number of deaths one game with the highest kill participation by a mile and a half, including ACTUAL kills, and everyone on the team was trying to rally the enemy team into reporting me for intentionally feeding and trolling because they ran butt first into a teamfight I told them to avoid. (the context being the enemy got Elder Dragon it was a dumb ass idea to try and teamfight against that, which is exactly what they did)

Just played a game as Janna with Miss Fortune as an ADC. We were up against Karma and Sivir. I try and tell her to just chill out and farm because we'll get outpoked otherwise.

She cusses me out and goes Rambo and despite my best effort (which pre-ultimate are really limited on Janna) she dies over and over again, eventually giving up First Tower Blood and everything.

And it is, according to her and my team, 110% my fault.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

HazyCloud74 votes

Jungler's fault you mean. They get blamed for everything, and I say this as a mid main.

Ziovi4 votes

To be exact it works like this: top and mid blames jungler for everything. If adc and supp are pre-made, then they will blame the jungler together. Otherwise the adc will blame the support and/or the jungler. Not sure who the support blames, because i'm usually the support.

Vistha6 votes

Not sure who the support blames, because i'm usually the support.

That'd be the ADC most of the time.

It Hertz When IP3 votes

This. If my ADC can't stop eating his own crayons, it's gonna result in me having shit for assist gold/active GP5 income, and I won't be able to do much beside throw out Hail Mary CC's and ward.

notice me Sin pi9 votes

what do u mean everything's support's fault? http://i.imgur.com/4YoB2RM.jpg

Big Lincoln19 votes

wow it's like people want to try the new shit that's changed and don't take it that serious

gg support circlejerk

Marshbouy16 votes

Every preseason is a shitshow. When i don't play support i end up feeling like this is my job every game.

Maybe it's not that you are supporting, but that you actually understand how to play the game? (also this is like 90% strawman and lies, but good job getting the support mains circlejerking)

KVbqbFsC8e6 votes

Thats the tradeoff for getting carried every game.

Dark Nephthys41 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RX04kkdZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-13T01:27:44.965+0000)

Thats the tradeoff for getting carried every game.

Getting carried? At this point it might as well be the Supports carrying the games. With how most games has at least 2 Assassins on each team in every game, the supports peeling is becoming so important now and without it the ADC and most likely the team fight is over.

Lost R43 votes

People continue to think that the support is nothing but a playable minion with no damage, utility, crowd control, durability, or usefulness in any way shape or form, existing only to steal the glory from others more deserving and to be blamed for all the mistakes and faults made throughout the game.

And then they do this shit.

aspects11 votes

to be fair, supports actually dont really do both damage and tank in the same support. your either braum, or sona, not both

Xonra3 votes

Funny because in 90% of my games I somehow do like 3rd most damage on my team (even when I tank), and still have to do over 60% of the warding because at least 2 people will not even bother to ward when they are in lane let alone out of it.

Play Leona then tell me you don't do damage AND tank. I've yet to play a Leona game and not out damage at least 2 people on my team. Pretty much same goes for Naut most of the time.

Spoofghoul1 votes

yea naut's aoe damage spam will do that if nobody is zoning/focusing him

President Swa1n1 votes

Why would you focus Nautilus

Spoofghoul1 votes

because you can kill him in 2seconds just like everyone else

President Swa1n1 votes

{quoted}

I somehow do like 3rd most damage on my team (even when I tank)

But we're talking about tank Nautilus. In a teamfight, it would take longer to kill him than high priority targets that do far more damage

Spoofghoul1 votes

yea and? he still dies in 2 seconds to focus fire

President Swa1n1 votes

And in those two precious seconds of foolishly focusing the tank support, EVERYONE ELSE on the enemy just DPSes you to death.

Spoofghoul1 votes

{quoted}

Funny because in 90% of my games I somehow do like 3rd most damage on my team (even when I tank), and still have to do over 60% of the warding because at least 2 people will not even bother to ward when they are in lane let alone out of it.

Play Leona then tell me you don't do damage AND tank. I've yet to play a Leona game and not out damage at least 2 people on my team. Pretty much same goes for Naut most of the time.

you see hes outdamaging half his team and i responded naut has aoe damage maybe zone him out, or focus him if needed

there are 2 people dealing less damage so just don't focus those 2 people

let's be honest here they are not more useful then a nautilus when he deals that much or more damage, since naut brings cc

President Swa1n1 votes

I believe this is a somewhat paradoxical (?) case. The reason why he dealt the third most amount of damage was BECAUSE he wasn't prioritized. He just stood in every fight slowly DPS'ing without getting attacked till some of his team was already dead. BECAUSE they got focused first, they didn't manage to deal as much damage.

If I'm wrong, then yes, he should be prioritized over the two other champions he out damaged. But let's be honest, By the time you've killed two of the enemy team, the fight is all but over.

Spoofghoul2 votes

yes it's a paradox ^^

Arakadia6 votes

Bard Is kinda both. If you build right.

aspects12 votes

but if you build him like that your not gonna have the damage output of carry.

Arakadia6 votes

Bards not a carry.

aspects11 votes

hes not gonna have the damage output of almost any top or jg, unless they are a legitimate full tank like malphite or maokai

Arakadia6 votes

Your accumulation of downvotes probably is due the your lack of kappas.

aspects15 votes

kappa

Arakadia4 votes

There ya go!

inplane4 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RX04kkdZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-13T01:27:44.965+0000)

Thats the tradeoff for getting carried every game.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2343959517/40476468?tab=overview

Look at that and say it again like you mean it.

Oglaf5 votes

{quoted}

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2343959517/40476468?tab=overview

Look at that and say it again like you mean it.

You buy Knight's Vow on Janna?!

You crazy sonuvagun!

notice me Sin pi11 votes

if support is the role that u can play to get carried, i wonder why ur win rate with support champs are below 40%, especially with such big sample size.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

Winrate as support has no relevance since its dependent on how your teammates play anyway. Other roles have that same dependence, but you can solo carry with other roles.

500000000000000017 votes

If you're not impacting the game as a support, that's the problem.

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