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Damage is not the only way to have impact on games.

Disembark··6 votes·3,203 views

I see a lot of posts like "ADC does too much damage" which is fine.

Also I see a lot of QQ about lack of top lane influence, which is true - they have a shit position on the map and when 5v5 deathfests are encouraged its hard for them to have impact.

However the mid laner QQ about "mid lane has no impact" is getting kind of ridiculous. "Doing damage" is not the only way to have impact on the game. ADCs might outdamage you but mid lane has been and will continue to be the most impactful role due to its map position for multiple reasons

  1. You get to influence your lane (obviously), but have the option to roam top/bot to influence their lanes as well. You can ALSO invade the enemy jungler or protect your jungler from invades on both sides. You also get to ward the enemy jg's MOST important camp (raptors) or even take it.

  2. Access to the tower with the most map influence in the game. Bot tower going down is only important because it enables the support to roam and the ADC to rotate to take more towers. However taking the bot tower doesn't offer any innate map advantages. Mid tower by far has the most influence on the map, and is vital to take when you want enemy jg control (your jungler is free to roam b/t enemy jg) or baron control.

  3. Most mids have a lot of utliity or CC.

  4. Mids will be the highest level in the game - generally higher level than the jungler. It makes their ganks/dives more impactful than an enemy jungler ganks.

  5. Mid laners still do a fuck ton of damage, generally second most in a game.

Saying mid lane is the least influential role (or second least influential) is the stupidest QQ I've seen on the boards. It's at worst the second most influential role.

9 Comments

iBob2 votes

Well said

Bloodgam1 votes

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iBob1 votes

If every champ is more powerful, nobody is.

Salson1 votes

This comes from people confusing Power and Influence.

Power (stats):

  1. Adc - Crit is hilariously overtunned
  2. Mid - Usually highest level in the game, decent itemization
  3. Top - When farmed up, usually strongest 1v1 in the game
  4. Jungle - They usually fall off.
  5. Supp - Least gold/Exp in the team

Influence (the ability to pick fights and force advantages):

  1. Jungle - insane early sustain and surprise factor
  2. Supp - The one actually dictates Bot
  3. Mid - Can roam to influence the map
  4. Adc - Low influence, but not inexistant
  5. Top - I the middle of nowhere

This leads us to: Adc - Mid - Jungle 7 points Supp - 5 points Top - 4 points Botlane - 12 points

However, as long as Adc and Supp aren't the 2 lowest ranked roles, winning Bot will decide the game.

A healthy enviroment would have about 8 points in Solo lanes and 10-11 in Botlane. That's because while Bot should have the most impact, having too much of it breaks the meta-game to pieces and leads it into the current state.

Mob Piru1 votes

Bot has and always will have the most impact in the game. Which is why i cry everytime my jungler camps top and mid while i have auto fill support or just a bad support who cant help me win my lane. Due to the fact that as u said support dicate the lane. If there support is harassing me everytime i try to farm and my support is wasting mana and not really doing anything beneficial like just stadning behind me or at tower. then chances are u gonna lose lmao

SmashinBob2 votes

Well i play all roles even though i main adc, plat elo, to me the most important roles would be mid and jungle, adcs are there just for the ride really.

This order of importance: Mid Jungle Support Adc Top

And i list adc after support, as if you get a crappy supp it often makes your adc completely irrrellevant.

That being said, a botlane duo could be worth more than a mid, but to be honest i dont understand why people think adcs carry games, adc is literally the role where you have to be very safe and rely on your team to protect/zone/support for you to deal any damage, pretty much all other roles have much more playmaking potential, and are more responsible for winning games.

Thorn Fierce Red1 votes

The most of players only want damage they dint care about sustain or defense and that why we lose a lot of game because....., if u dint build some sustain who else will do?

Nyarlathοtep

) You get to influence your lane (obviously), but have the option to roam top/bot to influence their lanes as well. You can ALSO invade the enemy jungler or protect your jungler from invades on both sides. You also get to ward the enemy jg's MOST important camp (raptors) or even take it.

Well you are right. But the thing is that, some of us dont want to. Sometimes its downright suicidal to try to influence another lane just because we might stumble across someone else (bonus difficulty if you are a mage thats weak to 1v1, aka most of them). Thats also why invading the enemy jungler is just way too risky. This is almost sure to attract the attention of the enemy midlaner.

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