Annie just missed three consecutive Tibbers on me

Yenn·Jan 19, 2017·8 votes·1,225 views

Ahead by one kill, one assist, and 20 CS as Lux.

Every time she's missed Tibbers, I turn around and combo her, except I sacrificed AP for MR and my combo is unable to kill her.

At the same time, I'm unable to one shot the caster minions because of the gold I wasted on the MR, so I'm now struggling to CS.

And then, eventually, she flashes into me and I need Barrier to just barely survive with ~50 health, so the MR was basically a waste of an item.

How is this in any way healthy game play?

13 Comments

Rock MDJan 19, 20176 votes

I mean you averaged 4.3 cs a minute while she got 6.8 so there's a reason you couldn't afford to itemize defensively while still clearing waves.

Packun FlowerJan 19, 20173 votes

As an Annie main i can promise you she did not miss because she is bad.

Annie's rework left the poor girls kit absolutly riddled with bugs that were never fixed or even addressed despite public outcry. One of the main bugs is Tibbers ult not procking stun or damage.

Part of this is due to another bug that the range indicator on Tibbers us actually bugged as well. But there is a lot of vtdeo of evidence of Annie hitting the ult dead on and the enemy just does not take any damage or even prock the stun.

This is simply one of many bugs that the rework left Annie with. Shes almost unplayable honestly because of the buggy state her kit is in.

CochoJan 19, 20171 votes

The change they did to maker tibbers hit when it appeared rather than decided whether or not it was in range it was cast was an annoying change. Haven't played her much since that change

Troll for TrumpJan 20, 20171 votes

@ Darius Chogath

CochoJan 20, 20171 votes

Idk what they did with darius, but cho got lower cooldown and more range. Shorter silence duration though.

Annie got the change and less dmg on her ult,

oh but to compensate, when you feed, tibbers gets mad. I'd rather take a bigger tibbers lol

Troll for TrumpJan 20, 20171 votes

Darius E used to register on cast.

Meaning if you cast E on an ezreal while it was still in cast time, he would still get hooked.

PoskeJan 19, 20171 votes

Building Defensive stats on Lux and most of assassins are bad nowdays (Lux is sort of an assassin in a way)

People call me crazy for not going mr vs annie as le bl. But from experience I know that if i go mr I will still fking die if her tibbers hit and i ll lack dps because of negatron

Thats why I just try to bait out tibbers by doing le bl dashing combos sending clones etc.

With lux you can just outrange her unless she flashes

If at any point unless you are ahead you are building defensive item you are surrendering a lane

YennJan 19, 20172 votes

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Building Defensive stats on Lux and most of assassins are bad nowdays (Lux is sort of an assassin in a way)

People call me crazy for not going mr vs annie as le bl. But from experience I know that if i go mr I will still fking die if her tibbers hit and i ll lack dps because of negatron

Thats why I just try to bait out tibbers by doing le bl dashing combos sending clones etc.

With lux you can just outrange her unless she flashes

If at any point unless you are ahead you are building defensive item you are surrendering a lane

Except Annie rushes MS items + is usually runs MS quints. If she gets air drake, you're pretty much fucked, she doesn't need Flash to get in range of you from max E range, and binding her from long range while she has that much speed requires her to be bad.

The point is that this is unhealthy game play with no chance for counter-itemization or counter play.

PoskeJan 19, 20171 votes

The whole point of annie is being unhealthy

If you add delay on her ultimate none ll player her

She is a worse version of melee mage at that point

Ms quints are dog shit She should never reach you without flashing if you are lux

You can use e in advance for a wave and then another E come And there you go wave cleared she didnt reach you

Riot stated it themself her instant ulti stun is her identity and honestly I dont want that to change..

Hayaishi2Jan 19, 20171 votes

Honestly, resistances on squishies have been useless since season 5. Damage champions do too much damage to be hindered by the 25 MR mantle you just bought

dim2aJan 19, 20171 votes

Lux has more range than annie and a bind, I don't think MR on her for Annie is a good idea. This is like adc complaining that they can not burst tanks if they rush armor. There are situations when MR on Lux is good, but vs. annie, if enenmy team doesn't have other high AP threats, I don't think it's called for.

TworieJan 19, 20171 votes

MR is just going to be useless late game after she gets voidstaff so there's really no point in getting any... what you need to do is ward late game so she doesn't sneak up on you, get your jungler to bait out her flash to escape so her kill potential goes down during laning phase, and then burst her down from the comfort of your spawn while she waits for a few minutes so that her flash is up so that she might maybe get another kill.