"why arent they doing a support update?"

Critmaster Garen··3 votes·486 views

ok, ive been reading this question multiple times on the boards now, and there are two reasons why there hasnt been a major support rework yet.

first off all, "support" is not a class of champions. when riot does roster update, theyre usually focusing on specific classes or sub classes of champions. juggernauts, marksmen, assassins, vanguards. those arent roles on a team, but classes of champions of which these champions can take certain roles on a team.

a juggernaut can be a carry Darius, a tank can be a support Leona, a marksman can be a jungler Kindred, an enchanter can be a jungler Ivern etc.

if we were to get a "support update" it would be more of an "enchanter update" focusing on a specific sub class of champions like

Soraka Sona Lulu Nami and similar enchanter class champions. which might or might not happen at some point.

the second major reason is, that support itemization has already been updated every preseason, and even this meadseason so far.

itemization changes are usually playing a large role in roster updates, and riot has payed more attention to support (and adc) itemization in the the past years than to any other class of champions. constantly adding items, updating them or changing them in an attempt to make the role feel more impactful.

with the most recent additions in preseason item 3107 item 3109, the changes to existing support items and the addition of heal and shield amp to their items.

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SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

support is a class of champions

if they were to do it, it would be on champs that are mostly taken support.

dumb thread

Alistar Blitzcrank Brand Braum Karma Lux Lulu Leona Nami Morgana Nautilus Soraka TahmKench Taric Zilean Zyra

most of these champs are mostly brought support (with the exception of a few of them who are brought mid too)

Critmaster Garen4 votes

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support is a class of champions

if they were to do it, it would be on champs that are mostly taken support.

dumb thread

champions taken into support are Soraka Annie Leona Taric and even goddamn MissFortune

how exactly do these belong to the same class of champions? im really curious what your logic is here.

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

just like you said, anyone can be a support. but there are champs, that are made for support, just like the tank update. its looking at champs that are made to be tanks.

this thread has no logic to it, assassin update was an update to champs made to be assassins (at a time where people were using op builds that were making them tanks instead of their intended roles)

Critmaster Garen4 votes

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just like you said, anyone can be a support. but there are champs, that are made for support, just like the tank update. its looking at champs that are made to be tanks.

this thread has no logic to it, assassin update was an update to champs made to be assassins (at a time where people were using op builds that were making them tanks instead of their intended roles)

assassins are a class of champions. tanks are a class of champions.

support is a role on a team that can be taken by a variety of champions from different classes. just like junglers.

there are "enchanters" which would probably describe what youre talking about. but while those guys naturally fit into the support role more often, not even every enchanter is a duo lane support.

Ivern belongs to the same class of champions as Sona Soraka for example.

riot doesnt do a "support update" because theyre doing class updates. changes to specific roles, like jungle and support usually happen between seasons.

theyve been constantly updating the itemization for the support role over the past years. theyve even been doing item updates specifically targeted at enchanters.

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

do u just not read?

we're talking about full supports, not support champs made for jungle, support bot lane champs. they can be brought other roles, but its not always the best and its more for fun (like blitz mid)

i couldnt care less if they updated support champs, but if they did they would most likely look at champs that are pretty much only seen bot lane.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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do u just not read?

we're talking about full supports, not support champs made for jungle, support bot lane champs. they can be brought other roles, but its not always the best and its more for fun (like blitz mid)

i couldnt care less if they updated support champs, but if they did they would most likely look at champs that are pretty much only seen bot lane.

i did read, and you dont seem to understand that "support" isnt a class of champions. im working by riots definition of classes and subclasses.

Blitzcrank doesnt belong to the same class of champions as Sona or Annie

one is a vanguard, the next is a mage, and the third is an enchanter. all three can be played in the support role.

when riot does roster updates they focus on classes of champions and not roles.

chipndip11 votes

You're STILL confusing the ROLE with the CLASS.

Top lane isn't called "tank lane", and mid lane isn't called "assassin lane". There's a support "role", but it's not a class of champions.

chipndip12 votes

Support is a role, not a class.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Exactly. Riot does roster updates on classes, not generic positions on the map. Hence why the juggernaut update did not include changes to other champions that are played top lane, such as Melee Carries (Yasuo, Tryndamere) or Tanks (Maokai, Malphite, or Nautilus).

khorney1 votes

Umm have your ever played against a ap sona? Who cares end of the day supports get blamed for losing 96%of the time

Doodlzzz1 votes

We don't need a support update because Riot is constantly throwing failed reworks in the support role lol.

Dont think I forgot about u guys Zyra Brand Malzahar

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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We don't need a support update because Riot is constantly throwing failed reworks in the support role lol.

Dont think I forgot about u guys Zyra Brand Malzahar

im not saying certain champions played in that role dont need work. but also, theyre constanlty working on that role.

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