"We are investigating some Vayne changes possibly"

Drunken Yasuo··40 votes·2,894 views

We reduced Vaynes Base Attack damage by 0,655, this will tone down her early game and seperate the good vayne players from the great.

For Compensation we buffed her Attackspeed from 4%/lvl to 6%/lvl and her Max%HP True Damage from 4%/5%/6%/7%/8% to 4%/6%/8%/10%/12% so these nerfs wont destroy her late game.

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Angry Monster19 votes

i would cry

Drunken Yasuo33 votes

according to the last patches we actually know that they wouldnt mind doing shit like that sadly

Reaper Soraka17 votes

Vayne may purchase Devourer without smite in her trinket slot. When used, it will activate a Karthus pet which will immediately ult for 1234 damage. Cooldown resets after a kill. Oh. Devourer trinket also places a ward at your cursor upon use. Not Vayne's, yours. Even if you're not in a game, or have league open.

Daxterr3 votes

{quoted}

Vayne may purchase Devourer without smite in her trinket slot. When used, it will activate a Karthus pet which will immediately ult for 1234 damage. Cooldown resets after a kill. Oh. Devourer trinket also places a ward at your cursor upon use. Not Vayne's, yours. Even if you're not in a game, or have league open.

I love it

Silents4299 votes

It's amazing what taking only part of a quote out of context can do.

Meddler-

TLDR: It's possible Vayne's too strong, so we're looking at her. 'Everyone says' doesn't necessarily equal true though.

There are a lot of anti Vayne threads on Boards, with you there. That indicates that, at the very least, a lot of players are finding Vayne really frustrating. Frustrating doesn't necessarily mean overpowered however, though the two are correlated. Champions sometimes generate a lot of frustration feedback even when balanced or underpowered (e.g. Blitzcrank really annoys some people regardless of his balance state and waves of anti Blitz threads crop up every so often). It's also important to remember that the population of Boards isn't necessarily representative of the entire player base (it's a subset of the english speaking population from certain servers).

Having said that though it's very possible Vayne's too strong at the moment. Her win rate in solo queue is quite high for such a popular champion. That, particularly when combined with the frustration she's causing, means she's worth investigating. Doesn't necessarily mean nerfing Vanye's the appropriate outcome though. It's possible we might find that Vayne's too dominant at present because the champions that should be keeping her in check in lane are weak and need to be buffed. Or because items she scales especially well with are overpowered. Or because other meta conditions (lots of HP stacking champs for example) are very favourable to her. Or even some combination of all those factors and too strong a kit, hence the need for some investigation.

I GANK LANES7 votes

stop with the bandwagon vayne shit god damn you kids are annoying

Pledgie3 votes

you arent welcome here

Fasmodey7 votes

it's not funny you know.

Why does everyone open a retarded topic like this? It's not what Riot does.

Zorsus3 votes

Excuse me? in 2014 riot reduced Irelia's health by a half point, which was so gamebreaking they had to buff her across 69 patches so she can be viable again

Myozthirirn3 votes

That was april's fools

Fasmodey1 votes

{quoted}

Excuse me? in 2014 riot reduced Irelia's health by a half point, which was so gamebreaking they had to buff her across 69 patches so she can be viable again

Give me proof, lolwiki doesn't have anything about it.

DorkunedAuras2 votes

in the URF patch, they nerfed irelia's base HP by .4, which rounds up, meaning there was no nerf (I don't think they actually did anything).

They were just joking with the "Better nerf Irelia" meme.

Also, everything Zorsus said after the comma was lies.

Yordle Xayah5 votes

Oh man, watch out. They may be going too far and may need to compensate later.

Drunken Yasuo4 votes

fixed

Finn Teh Human4 votes

The thing I hate is that people again don't consider what Vayne has/doesn't have. She is duelist ADC. Almost every other ADC has some sort of ranged spell/aoe AA or spell. THE PROBLEM IS NOT IN VAYNE HERSELF, but in the ADC's that were nerfed a little bit. Honestly it still takes a good Vayne to carry. Jinx is a strong counter to her early/late. Jinx out ranges her not only in AA but also every single one of her spells. I've been seeing Jinx more and more since people are finally realizing that. Another thing people don't consider is that bot lane is a DUO LANE. You might lose lane to a Vayne because your support doesn't know how to play against her. You can't have Thresh + Vayne vs Lucian + Bard and say that Vayne is op just because you have a support that doesn't do well against Vayne and enables her to get on Lucian. It's funny that people say no one counters Vayne but there's one champion that totally counters her and is simple to play - Annie. Doesn't matter if Annie is support or mid, she can take you out before you have the ability to do anything. And since Vayne has to be closer to the fight then most other ADC's, it makes it easier to take out Vayne.

slanteyedsuicide1 votes

Preach. Vayne is not as oppressive as people say she is.

TheI3igDaddy4 votes

"possibly"

As if some part of the balance team actually believes Vayne doesn't need anything changed?

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

She is a counter pick in a meta filled with tanky people where every other adc has been nerfed.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Drunken Yasuo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kfXU6Ab1,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-31T08:16:17.937+0000)

We reduced Vaynes Base Attack damage by 0,655, this will tone down her early game and seperate the good vayne players from the great.

For Compensation we buffed her Attackspeed from 4%/lvl to 6%/lvl and her Max%HP True Damage from 4%/5%/6%/7%/8% to 4%/6%/8%/10%/12% so these nerfs wont destroy her late game.

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Vayne Zed : TEEHEE HEEHEE TEEHEE TEEHEE HEEHEE

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Are they now schoolgirls?

Âîr1 votes

upcoming skins

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

I don't use either champion and I would buy it.

ShadowParker2 votes

Really? Would you prefer if they didn't comment and tell us that they're at least aware? Because all this thread is doing is telling them not to tell us anything. SO quit with the sarcasm and be happy they commented.

Fadedpf1 votes

More like. Tumble 30 mana >> 50 Mana. This solved the problems with Vayne right?

Drunken Yasuo1 votes

you forgot the compansation buffs to her damage

Fadedpf1 votes

Compensation? Lower the cooldown to 2 seconds at all ranks.

Drunken Yasuo1 votes

that wont change anything of her lategame. give her 2/1,75/1,5/1,25/1 sec cooldown and a mana + cooldown reset on unit kill :^)

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Oh great another katarina/kalista clone

Sentinel Hydra1 votes

But won't that be a good thing? ;)

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

She's already a hyper-carry, she doesn't need coffee XD

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

but if this was serious for an adcs with true dmg she has an oddly high attack speed which should be toned down to 0.644

Daxterr1 votes

Let's change tumbles cooldown to .5 seconds at all ranks, also you don't need to hit something to start the cooldown anymore.

Bluid1 votes

Is this real? I am Teemo main, but Vayne is my second favourite champion, and I already think she is one of the strongest characters in the game, but not at the point she can easily win (in other worlds, she is not like a "Brawl Meta Knight"): if what you said is real, Vayne would be overpowered...

Acidic Puddle1 votes

Why did anyone upvote this. Did you find it enlightening? Did you find it funny? Let me know what kind of people I share this world with...

Nidalee SO NYAAA1 votes

Vayne has been a balance issue sense release.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Is this true? If so, then she will wreck even harder.

Wonhwa1 votes

Man. Right now with the new juggernaut meta tanks are strong. Naturally adc main will turn to adc that can deal with heavy tanks and that's vayne. All of a sudden everyone wants to pull out the Nerf stick and hit vayne with it. Nothing was wrong with her before. Now that she's getting picked more often people that isn't used to dealing with her crys out and her already weak landing phase is going to get weaker. Just my 2 cents.

MrWasjig1 votes

Was this actually announced somewhere and I missed it? Or is this just a joke thread? I dunno D: Funny mind

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