Jungle is the worst/best role

Shiroyashayami·3/4/2020, 8:08:14 PM·1 votes·1,883 views

Do you know why jungle is so shit? Because if you play meta then it is the best role in the game but if you don't then you don't exist and have 0 influence on the game. You are literally forced to play those 6 meta champions if you want to win. Doesn't help that jungle has such a tiny champion pool. Other lanes can get champions from each other, so even soraka can be played top but jungle is different and I would really want riot to consider changes to the jungle item.

Instead of pushing Darius into jng 3 times without good results you should consider changing the jng item so that every champion can go jng, which was once in the game but was removed.

Honestly jng is ez if you play meta but if you don't it is the worst experience possible and you wish to die irl.

3 Comments

billa23143/4/2020, 8:22:47 PM1 votes

The meta in JG is for champs with an engage at moment. That is why you see the same 6 champs. The mobility in the game is to high and if your not a mobile jg, with an engage, you can't gank, and power farming only works with a select few champs (Karthus prob only one at moment at higher elo play). There are other jg's that can be played but require good teamwork and that seldom happens in solo queue so that does limit the jg pool and makes the role that much harder for jg. Buffing Darius, Morde, Garen does not solve their engage problem, why they aren't great in jg. Talon/Zed although should have helped, they just get countered by most jg's at moment, and even though that mid always wants a gank, they won't gank for you a lot when your invaded so feels bad.

Worst JG Wins3/4/2020, 9:46:21 PM1 votes

nah man JG is just hard the worst role in the game. It's support 5 years ago levels of bad. League is 4 v 4 ATM

cathartic3/5/2020, 3:36:33 PM1 votes

You're simply wrong. Viable jungle champion pool in jungle is much wider than in bot lane.

Let's check at LoLalytics (plat+ stats, worldwide). You say there are only 6 junglers played. According to the stats, the following junglers have more than 5% play rate: Lee Sin, Elise, Zac, J4, Ekko, Kayn, Master Yi, Graves, Olaf, Rek'sai, Kha'zix, Shaco.

That's 12 junglers. And only 1 of those 12 has a negative win rate - Kayn - probably only because people go blue too often. That is the jungle meta, and arguably a few more champions are strong enough to be meta but are underplayed (e..g Warwick and Nunu).

However, if we look at bot lane, the following champions have more than 5% pick rate: Ezreal, Kai'sa, Miss Fortune, Caitlyn, Lucian, Vayne, Aphelios, Jhin, Jinx, Ashe. That's only 10 champions - fewer than jungle. Furthermore, the 2 most popular have a negative average win rate, which further restricts the choices people should be making to win (i.e. the meta). As with jungle, there are several high win rate picks that are underplayed (e.g. Senna and Yasuo).

So in conclusion, jungle meta is more varied than bot lane. Also, if you look at the list of champions, the choice in jungle has a clearly much more varied play style than bot lane.

Now I agree to a small extent. We don't have enough junglers, and it's ages since a dedicated jungler was released. It just doesn't help to add hyperbola.