For the love of Kled, I can't tell how much health he ever has when I go to kill him

awdaf·Aug 15, 2016·51 votes·4,219 views

Can we do something to make his health bar better?

56 Comments

SeductiveGrandpaAug 15, 201621 votes

When you got to kill him? You mean when Kled comes to kill you? Major Admiral Kled dont run, no he dont.

Nik NikersonAug 16, 20164 votes

Major Admiral? I think you mean High Major Commodore of the First Legion Third Multiplication Double Admiral Artillery Vanguard Company. You will respect his authority.

SeductiveGrandpaAug 16, 20161 votes

Excuse me sir, but I already respect his authority. And i've sold my house, home, and everything i own (other than my laptop) to him so he can further expand his territory.

Raja ChachkiAug 15, 201618 votes

That and don't forget about the invulnerability....During a chaotic fight I don't see exactly where he will dismount (bad health bar) and I accidentally waste my spells while he is invulnerable...That is not outplay, that is me winning a fight, then Kled gaining the upper hand by chance.

Meep ManAug 15, 201614 votes

That is a lack of knowledge and planning as well

RISE Shlack123Aug 15, 20165 votes

This post was about not being able to clearly see the healthbar. You can't know or plan if you can't see the information. Pls pay attention before posting

lofi n chillhopAug 16, 20161 votes

again, lack of knowledge. it is very easy to see his health bar. it's in the same place where anyone else's health bar is. and it has a clear "kleds health" color and "mount health" color.

although if you are color blind, then maybe that is why you cna't see? if colorblind is an issue for kled's health bar visual, then it does need to be improved. but if anyone else is complaing about his mechanical visibility right now, it is 95% guaranteed to be due to lack of experience.

RISE Shlack123Aug 16, 20161 votes

That's what the guy is saying. He CANNOT see the bar. Stop being dense. It's not an issue of not paying attention or lacking knowledge. It's the person not being able to see the colors.

Please read before posting.

lofi n chillhopAug 17, 20161 votes

no he did not. he said "bad health bar" which conveys zero information about why he finds it to be so, which is useless for any rioter who would feel compelled to help. lack of clarity is the issue with both posts in fact... maybe it is in fact that the health bar does need updating because players out there cannot see it realistically due to its design and not lack of experience. but WITHOUT that clarity, at this point in time, anyone who would be in a position to change the graphics would assume that STATISTICALLY any complaint is due to lack of experience.

RISE Shlack123Aug 19, 20161 votes

It only conveys zero information if you take it as mindless whining instead of what it really was - a health bar that is hard to interpret. Context is key, my friend.

lofi n chillhopAug 21, 20161 votes

yes, context is key. the quote in question has no context, other then that the health bar is not satisfactory for the poster.

that is nice.

but that conveys nothing meaningful for anyone who would want to fix any issue about the health bar's visibility.

RISE Shlack123Aug 27, 20162 votes

It only conveys "i have no knowledge of the game" if that's what you're looking for. Otherwise, contextually, what else could it possibly mean other than the bar having a bad look?

I agree that the comment was vague, but you surely jumped right on the "lack of knowledge" part without even confirming what the comment was about. If you don't understand what the poster is saying, or you aren't sure, then it's best to be sure or shut your mouth. Life lesson for ya right there.

Bots Whilst HighAug 16, 20161 votes

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That and don't forget about the invulnerability....During a chaotic fight I don't see exactly where he will dismount (bad health bar) and I accidentally waste my spells while he is invulnerable...That is not outplay, that is me winning a fight, then Kled gaining the upper hand by chance.

LOL as his move speed is reduced and his kit is cut in half.

Raja ChachkiAug 16, 20163 votes

I said nothing about Kled's unmounted power (which is indeed very sad), but why the HELL does he go invulnerable lol??? I wouldn't mind at all if they toned down Skaarl a bit, added power to unmounted Kled, and took out the invulnerability. He is not gracefully jumping off of a horse (even then it makes no sense), but his mount is speeding off in fright, you would think he would fall flat on his face, but nope.

LXIIAug 16, 20162 votes

Well I can answer that question. He goes invulnerable because he also can't do anything during the dismount. You just "killed" half of his kit, now you want him to be finished off while he's not even allowed to do anything himself?

AptestAug 16, 20163 votes

yes.

I expect to hard-CC him and for him to stay hard-CCed.

and die.

AstôlfoAug 17, 20161 votes

or you could just time your abilities better

JackMcSnipeyzAug 16, 20162 votes

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That and don't forget about the invulnerability....During a chaotic fight I don't see exactly where he will dismount (bad health bar) and I accidentally waste my spells while he is invulnerable...That is not outplay, that is me winning a fight, then Kled gaining the upper hand by chance.

In that case, you got your upper hand, and blew it because you were too trigger happy and couldnt wait 0.5 seconds to blow your spells

MeriipuAug 15, 20165 votes

skreet should have an orange health bar below kleds healthbar or something

Malicious MetalAug 15, 20164 votes

*Skaarl

SanghncatAug 15, 20161 votes

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skreet should have an orange health bar below kleds healthbar or something

Lol Skreet skreet.

TFBaamAug 15, 20164 votes

wait i dont see the issue, his hp is seperated, just on the same bar

colorblind off, ur (kled's) hp is green and skaarls is orange/brown (colorblind on kled hp is yellow) or if kled is on the enemy team his hp is red and skaarl is still orange/brown

i dont see what you find confusin

DrCyanideAug 16, 20161 votes

Read the numbers in the bar.

While most champions/monsters/everything in the game has two numbers (current health/max health), Kled has 4 (current health/max health + Scaarl current health/Scaarl max health).

TFBaamAug 16, 20161 votes

yea, would you just want the current health out of the total health? because i dont know how else you would display the information? other than stack the bar on top of the other? that would just clog up the screen

DrCyanideAug 17, 20161 votes

I guess I'd want to see something like this:

520 (+1300) / 1820

Skaarl and Kled's total health as one number on bottom, but split on top.

NaeniaAug 15, 20163 votes

This! Also, I was playing as Veigar and I used my stun and he walked right through it! He didn't have cleanse or QSS or anything that would make him immune to CC

Supreme Senpai69Aug 15, 20162 votes

He can hop over walls too. It's part of his kit but it's pretty frustrating because he decides when you fight. When he's done fighting he can just get away, hard as hell to kill and impossible to run from.

NaeniaAug 15, 20162 votes

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He can hop over walls too. It's part of his kit but it's pretty frustrating because he decides when you fight. When he's done fighting he can just get away, hard as hell to kill and impossible to run from.

That's broken. He shouldn't be able to run thru/hop over stuns and whatnot.

Lintu PuckAug 15, 20165 votes

it was said in the Champion Spotlight that he is CC immune while rolling. >.> If you didn't know you didn't watch it, making it your fault for not gathering info on the new guy. Also, while he is CC immune during his ult, his teammates right behind him are not. An example from the video showed Kled ulting deep into the enemy team, but the enemy Nami sent an Ult wave right down the lane, preventing any ally from coming to Kled's aid. This left the crazed Yordel too face his doom while his teammates either died or fled. In short, use his engage against him if you have CC and hear that charge coming.

Supreme Senpai69Aug 16, 20161 votes

He wasn't ulting though. If you damage him to the point he loses his first HP bar, Kled, then he's invincible and untargetable for a second.

TequilaZombieAug 16, 20163 votes

Another information everyone already knows. You never waste CC on someone who's untargetable.

Existential BardAug 16, 20162 votes

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That's broken. He shouldn't be able to run thru/hop over stuns and whatnot.

He can only jump over walls on his E if his first E hit you, but then he van only do this if you went through the wall before him

Lintu PuckAug 15, 20162 votes

There are only 2 ways to get Kled over a wall without Flash. One way is to have his back to a wall when he uses his unmounted Q, Pocket Pistol, which blast's him backwards. The other way is fancy positioning with your E, Joust, which in itself can't hop a wall.

Supreme Senpai69Aug 16, 20161 votes

If he unmounts he can hop a wall too if he's near it, I believe. Either that or the Kled I faced got unmounted and Q'd instantly before we could lock him down or even AA him. Either way though, that's 2-3 ways more than a lot of champions have

Lintu PuckAug 16, 20162 votes

That is what I meant be "unmounted Q" also, his entire kit is situational. If you have Skaarl, then you Q is your mid-ranged harass, farm tool, minor cc tool. If you don't have Skaarl then your Q is your only means of escape/survival. Use it to get away, or get a small chunk of Courage which will give you Skaarl back when you hit 100 Courage. W is an auto-attack passive buff with a cooldown. Making you think when you want to use it to either farm or get heavy damage on an enemy champ. E can ONLY be used if you have Skaarl. If you don't hit an enemy champ or an epic monster with the first dash, that will be all you get. If you do hit one of them with the first dash, you have a few seconds to dash through the same target a second time. If they are right next to a wall when you hit the second dash you might go over it. If they are marked by the first dash and they try to escape over a wall, you can then use your second dash to chase them right over that wall. The R, like the E, can only be used if you have Skaarl. You use it to engage the enemy, especially since it is a very poor escape tool. The big downside to the ult is that you can risk running in to deep with it, and that while Kled may be CC immune during it, his following teammates can still be stopped in their tracks, leaving the Kled player alone in a circle of enemies.

Serika ZeroAug 16, 20161 votes

the good downside on that ult is that its like sivir's ultimate, but 3 times faster..

VerdadeAug 16, 20162 votes

Sivir can NOPE out, Kled can't. Also, some champions, such as Alistar, can counter-engage, soak Kled's R and basically engage on his terms. Gragas ult into Kled's team is outright hilarious

Serika ZeroAug 16, 20161 votes

I agree to the nope out. But darn, even if Alistar or other counter engage champions try to do something, when the entire enemy team is running at you with 950 movement speed, you will get ran over. You just have to hope you got enough $ and items to win that team fight.

That's what I dislike about Kled. That his ult is really really powerful in giving allies movement speed, even thou his entire "identity" is that of a selfish bastard.

AstôlfoAug 17, 20161 votes

I mean he is "The Great Hussar,” “The High General Marshal Sergeant,” and “The Mountain Admiral”. It's him leading his soldiers into battle.

Serika ZeroAug 17, 20161 votes

which is anti social, has no friends, no army, he doesn't lead troops to battle, he kills everyone apparently except skarl.

Even in the video teaser he is shown killing his own "noxian" fellows. When he kills yordles he makes fun of killing his own family/clan.

That's why, ally buff is totally out of place and conflicts with the champion's identity and role.

VerdadeAug 17, 20161 votes

The problem i have with his R is too high MS steroid... its like 150-200% because my allies are able to hit 700-800 MS, which is ridiculous because of soft caps

EstebanfunkjrAug 15, 20165 votes

Was he ulting? He's immune to cc if he's ulting.

crippler38Aug 16, 20163 votes

I just wish I could read his hp pool better when I click on the guy. With the numbers being so small since they're having an hp bar for skarl and kled in one tiny overlay it's almost impossible for me to figure out what his exact hp is without straining my eyes. I kind of wish they'd put how much hp skarl has either over his hp bar like a jungle buff or epic monster, or somehow make it more visible.

EbonyBladeJ88Aug 16, 20163 votes

Honestly, the thing I thought the way his health bar would be is that Skaarl's HP would be Kled's secondary bar/resource bar. Then, after Skaarl runs, the "Courage" meter would replace it until he returned. But, I was quite wrong.

Tychusfindlay919Aug 16, 20161 votes

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Honestly, the thing I thought the way his health bar would be is that Skaarl's HP would be Kled's secondary bar/resource bar. Then, after Skaarl runs, the "Courage" meter would replace it until he returned. But, I was quite wrong.

It would be a lot easier if they coded it more like huekaiser's shield (which is as you described)

TFBaamAug 16, 20161 votes

where would you put the courage bar than?

EbonyBladeJ88Aug 17, 20161 votes

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It would be a lot easier if they coded it more like huekaiser's shield (which is as you described)

And like I said, the "Courage" bar could replace the secondary resource, essentially acting as the "refill" to Skaal's HP, and once it's full, he's back. It's easy, and I think that would have alot more "Clarity" since that's a word Rioters love to throw around, to it.