Solo Q badges are actually exactly what we need, here is why

awdaf·Jun 18, 2016·221 votes·11,039 views

So that an enemy pre made can single out a solo player, and camp him hard

127 Comments

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 201690 votes

Boards at its finest

"Rito, if you're gonna make us play with premades, at least show us who is a premade."

Rito: You can now see who's usually a solo player and who's usually a premade.

"WTF now the premades will know who's solo."

I realize that there are different people on boards who have different opinions. But both of these opinions were upvoted more than they were downvoted, despite one directly conflicting with the other.

Heckin SupportJun 18, 20164 votes

Does it also show it to the enemy team? I'd be more ok with it if it was like rank or mastery, where it only shows it to allies.

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 201621 votes

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Does it also show it to the enemy team? I'd be more ok with it if it was like rank or mastery, where it only shows it to allies.

Probably not.

In which case OP's complaint is irrelevant.

LostFr0stJun 18, 20168 votes

Riot stated that the info would be available for 3rd party sites to track, so the DQers need only op.gg (they did that anyways) to find out who to camp (which already happened).

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20168 votes

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Riot stated that the info would be available for 3rd party sites to track, so the DQers need only op.gg (they did that anyways) to find out who to camp (which already happened).

In which case my first comment on this thread is relevant again.

President Swa1nJun 19, 20164 votes

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In which case my first comment on this thread is relevant again.

It might just be me, but I don't think the majority of premades research their opponents on third party site.

LostFr0stJun 19, 20163 votes

Do you think so? That would be the easiest way to win the game though. It would also explain the increase in 4-man ganking top or mid before 10 mins.

President Swa1nJun 19, 20163 votes

It would be the easiest way, sure, but just like many other strategies, people don't always use the best way to win games. Especially true in lower ELO, people just don't look up their enemies.

4okiJun 19, 20162 votes

most people who play as 3-4 ppl aren't all low elo my friend. Atleast 1 or 2 of them are smurfing on low elo accounts to help their friends climb elo. Keep that in mind!

ElikainJun 19, 20162 votes

That's why i have a special character in my name so that they actually have to copy and paste it, which you can't do in the client.

GayFluffyUnicornJun 19, 20162 votes

Dunno, i look up every matchup during loading screen. Very helpful to know who you are up against, not only if they are premade. It is also good to know if they are smurfs, mains of a certain champ, only fotm player etc

rtbf225618241Jun 19, 20162 votes

Honestly, people at high elo don't track their opponents' stats that much so it would only occur below Diamond at the very least. Besides, it would be good practice for people that can't handle getting ganked.

LostFr0stJun 19, 20161 votes

Oh, it's excellent practice, yes. Until they learn to survive it they'll keep getting flamed by their team for feeding.

Eventually they'll come to expect it and hopefully will preemptively give their team instructions on what to do when it happens (no longer if; i.e. don't come, push mid/bot) instead of their whole team walking up to top for nothing after they're dead. When that happens they'll climb again. I agree.

aLawfulFalafelJun 19, 20161 votes

the whole team comes to top for you?

are we playing the same game?

someone on the team comes top for you at all?

seriously dude, are we playing the same game?

LostFr0stJun 20, 20162 votes

you forgot your /s -_-

Yes, people do indeed come top; there are lifeforms on the top side of the map.[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

aLawfulFalafelJun 20, 20162 votes

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

rtbf225618241Jun 21, 20162 votes

And i'm getting pretty sick of people acting like flaming occurs every game. If it does then that's League for them in their elo and they should be used to it or mute everyone if they can't stand it. Not up to Riot to fucking ban people on sight because we all know that's not possible every time but given that there are 70 million players worldwide, i'm not surprised.

Remlap1223Jun 18, 20165 votes

Consistency is irrelevant to the circlejerk.

TonyTonyMordecaiJun 18, 20166 votes

Yeah, I think some of us are jumping the gun a little too early. Plus, how many of us actually care enough to look up the other players' emblems?

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 201610 votes

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Yeah, I think some of us are jumping the gun a little too early. Plus, how many of us actually care enough to look up the other players' emblems?

idk. I don't even lolnexus any more. I trust that matchmaking is either gonna be good or it's gonna be shit, and I'd rather figure that out in game than get tilted ahead of time in a game that might be winnable.

CyndercatJun 19, 20163 votes

You would be surprised. I sometimes play with friends as a team of 5 in normal blind with friends. 4 of us are silver/gold but 1 is diamond and its really common to see the enemy comment on it. About 1 in every 3 games. Since you cant see enemy borders they must have searched him online.

MrBuffingtonJun 19, 20162 votes

And it's not necessarily guaranteed like OP suggests, you get an emblem for what you usually play, not what you're playing that particular game. I could alternate solo and premade and end 13-12, get the solo emblem where really if you're matched against me see and my emblem as solo, I could still be in a premade.

KeevalroyJun 18, 20163 votes

Part of the argument was that allowing us to see who who is premade queued would expose the shitty matchmaking as the joke that it is.

Xenos11111Jun 18, 20161 votes

Probably because both of these types of posts are from people who want solo queue back, and are having to put up with this compromise.

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20166 votes

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Probably because both of these types of posts are from people who want solo queue back, and are having to put up with this compromise.

I fall squarely into that category, too.

That doesn't make it less hypocritical to criticize DQ on two mutually exclusive grounds.

KING ATTILAJun 18, 201620 votes

10/10 Riot proving again how delusional they are.

TufioJun 18, 201612 votes

actually si good since you will be able to tell who is legit (solo) and who is a booster (premader).

KeevalroyJun 18, 201616 votes

That doesn't change the fact that solos can queue with premades. It's a cosmetic change meant to mean something, but doesn't address the problem.

T RexHasTinyArmsJun 19, 20165 votes

Kinda does. If someone is qued with a group and has the group emblem there is a decent chance their group as a whole is around that mmr, if they are qued solo and have group emblem you may want to avoid that game if you don't want to have to carry them extra. It differentiates the skill sets represented by rank, and maybe in top 1% there is still an issue bc it can't be balanced, but for most ranks it should be fine as long as the team is mostly made of players who are grouped solo or group according to their preference then it should be able to balance around the mmr right (i.e. The groups and solo players will be predicted to win at about the right rate if they are grouped as groups or solo and if they tend to group the other way and change it up you know WHY it isn't balanced). Now this is assuming it gets added as like a tag on borders or something but I think eventually that it could work as a solution of sorts.

President Swa1nJun 19, 20163 votes

Actually, it's a cosmetic solution to one cosmetic part of this major problem. Which is how people get boosted and then show off their rank to others. Now, we will at least be able to tell whether they got there on their own or not.

Besides, Riot SPECIFICALLY said that this isn't even the beginning of their solutions for DQ

purplekunJun 19, 20162 votes

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Actually, it's a cosmetic solution to one cosmetic part of this major problem. Which is how people get boosted and then show off their rank to others. Now, we will at least be able to tell whether they got there on their own or not.

Besides, Riot SPECIFICALLY said that this isn't even the beginning of their solutions for DQ

do you actually think that the people that came up with this bs have a plan? They only said that so people can shut up, the same way they did when they said solo queue is coming back, they are probably coming up with new stupid ideas right now...

President Swa1nJun 19, 20161 votes

Yes, actually I do. You may think Riot doesn't listen to its playerbase and that it's evil or whatever, but one thing is for certain: they are a company. They are not idiots. They make money from us playing the game and they don't want us to stop.

purplekunJun 20, 20162 votes

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Yes, actually I do. You may think Riot doesn't listen to its playerbase and that it's evil or whatever, but one thing is for certain: they are a company. They are not idiots. They make money from us playing the game and they don't want us to stop.

Can you actually say they arent idiots after dynamic queue? Also they want you to believe them that they arent evil, but if you do even a bit of research you will find a lot of weird stuff they did, for example when they were starting they hired the owner of a famous dota forum which also had a hero ideas section, made him close the forum to the public and mined it for ideas, they completely ripped off teemo and some other champs and you can find proof of that if you look around a bit, ofc they didnt give him any credit, after everyone demanded for riot to release the zip of the forum they did after a few years with the exception of the hero ideas section, its obvious as to why, they could easily be sued for stealing stuff.

They are always acting like they are gods telling the players whats good or what they should do, they created the stupid chat restriction system, I aint never seen anything like that in a game before, whats the point if you can just block a player, instead of focusing on boosters, leavers or feeders they put most of their time and effort into turning the players into mindless drones repeating the same word over and over again "that is toxic", "you are toxic", "report hes toxic". Instead of focusing on the gameplay and helping players improve they make them think that whats important is to report someone that says your mom is ugly... all of this while bragging about how competitive the game is. Riot is the most disgraceful game development company I've ever seen, I'm not saying they are the worst, but they sure arent the best.

69982196_DELJun 18, 20166 votes

Well, matchmakings are still garbage, the badges doesn't change that, so why play? Besides the badges are shown in profile only, so no checking in game or champion select.

AninLegions777Jun 18, 20161 votes

They said the badges will be made available to third party sites.

69982196_DELJun 18, 20162 votes

Ok, still, why play?

AtanchanJun 19, 20163 votes

I don't think you need to repeat that question. If a game's gotten to the point where you have to ask that, then no answer's going to satisfy you.

The DeckownerJun 18, 201612 votes

Well at least we now can identify who the boosted animals are and start farming them.

Next they need to make a badge for boosted animal and animal boosters.

KeevalroyJun 18, 20167 votes

Next they need to make a badge for boosted animal and animal boosters.

A monkey on a leash and a circus ringleader?

69982196_DELJun 18, 201610 votes

Riot is so fucking stupid.

JerulEonJun 18, 20169 votes

Badges are a Band-Aid solution to the trainwreck of Dynamic Que ranked.

No matter how much you try to make it better, at its core, its still crap.

CodyBear Jun 18, 20168 votes

It's like getting a sticker for doing your homework.

OrangesilkJun 19, 20165 votes

You know, solo-queue ranked is one of the most toxic experiences in the game, it's an endless rain of vitriol and hate.

I play exclusively 5-man premades, not because I want to climb and show off my epeen, but because I don't tolerate how disgusting the community is. So getting singled out as a "Boosted Animal" because Riot hasn't worked on fixing the worst parts of their community is kinda sad.

Dynamic queue needs to be separated into solo and team ranked, like it used to be, but don't antagonize us players who dislike solo queue to begin with.

MadCowNinjaJun 20, 20162 votes

Dude, it's fine if all you want to do is 5-man pre-mades. That is what 5v5 ranked was FOR. 5 man premades should not be thrown into a game against a team with SQ players. You are completely missing the fkn point of why ppl are complaining about DQ. You absolutely benefit from the current DQ setup and it's that one-sided pansie mentality that is ruining the ranked system. Boosted animal indeed.

KillerPenguinsJun 18, 20167 votes

They're available on the API though, sooooo lolking/opgg/etc will pick them up

DeathToEcchiJun 18, 20167 votes

-OR- the premade is like 'fuck this, he knows how to deal with us'. As a fully solo player and top main, I see a pre-made top/jg and assume their plan is to snowball the island and then ignore it. It's incredibly easy for most matchups to simply play safe and watch the premade jg waste his time sitting around hoping I step up to far. Meanwhile, (especially if it's a trio) my jg is hopefully wreaking havoc everywhere else on the map.

I understand peoples frustration, as I've witnessed every situation they describe while playing league. I just haven't had any more issues with the new matchmaking system than I ever had in the time LoL has been a game.

BlåbæretJun 18, 20167 votes

I wonder how much money Riotards have used on DQ. It's just an endless pile of unsolvable problems. Any sane company would revert back to Solo Q, but nah, Riot knows better than their players.