We can all ignote the fact.

dominusx·Oct 19, 2016·3 votes·455 views

That a lot of adc's can straight up facetank a lot of champions in this game except mages ofc but a lot of bruisers and tanks can just straight up be ignored because adc's build 2 crit items and a bt and they are somehow draintanks. But we need to nerf assasins so they can;t actually instagib the shitty draintanks that are called adc's in this season because its unhealthy to get oneshoted by someone. But it's healthy for an adc to facetank a Xin zhao or a Vi or a Riven unless riven is fed and pure ad. Hmm... :thinking: I expect downvotes not that i give a fuck about em tho. why i made this post? because this can take an entire E R Q AA W AA R AA from a Riven with this tell me if i'm wrong but when i excute a perfect combo and the ad just stands there and tanks it with a heal and autoattacks it's depressing

13 Comments

VoidStaresBackOct 19, 20163 votes

That's a nice tankshredder Riven build you've got there. Unfortunately, Black Cleaver's passive is much less effective against Jinx, LDR is pretty much pointless, and many of the stats from Maw are also irrelevant in that fight. Same with your scimitar, actually. So, basically, four of your items have reduced effectiveness in that particular 1 v 1.

Meanwhile, all but one of Jinx's items get to bring their full stats to bear against you (her LDR being less useful against you), although her reasons behind the frozen mallet are beyond me. And that's just looking at the items. You're trying to duel a full-build hypercarry as a bruiser, and that's never going to work. As has been noted, every ability you're using, she's attacking twice, and pretty soon that's going to tear through your shield and into your health bar. And that's how it's supposed to be: late-game hypercarries are supposed to be able to defeat most things they come across and require a team effort to take down, as well as a team effort to defend. Unless you're an assassin or mage, don't try to 1 v 1 a full build ADC. It's really that simple, and intended behavior.

If her draintanking was really that annoying, you should have built mortal reminder instead of LDR, that would have shut her down real quick.

dominusxOct 19, 20161 votes

it still baffles me the fact that they litterally make adc's able to sit there and tank people but everyone loses their mind when some fed assasins oneshots the splitpushing adc. also needed dominics for the enemy Vi/Cho

VoidStaresBackOct 19, 20161 votes

Honestly probably should have switched to Mortal Reminder anyways, less damage against their frontline but it makes it easier to kill the most important target on their team (their jinx), Cho in particular was long past his peak power by that point and you had two MR items and a cleanse.

People actually do lose their minds about it fairly regularly, it's just never quite at the same level as the hate against FotM champions which tends to dominate the gameplay section. In part it's about how hard it is for many assassins to actually be stopped due to their mobility, while ADCs, even those with dashes, tend to be a lot more manageable as far as CCing them down goes.

Handy Sandy Oct 19, 20162 votes

Well just so you know there are these items item 3123 item 3110 item 3143

Also don't forget summoner 3 summoner 14

Oh, btw, are you really expecting to 1v1 hypercarry jinx with a full build? Only mages and assassins can do that, you see, burst > DPS.

Riven doesn't dish out her damage as fast as someone like Akali Orianna Viktor Katarina so ofc jinx is going to heal a bunch while you try to do your combo. So every time you do one ability, she's autoattacking twice.

dominusxOct 19, 20161 votes

ay sure maybe i'll just build tank and let them win by default because our adc is useless and deals no physical. hmm yeh that would work it would make us lose faster so we dont deal with it great tip lad. But not quite the answer as to why an adc can facetank a bruiser building mostly dmg while also having a fat shield on low cooldown + a way to interupt auto's

Handy Sandy Oct 19, 20162 votes

ay sure maybe i'll just build tank and let them win by default because our adc is useless and deals no physical. hmm yeh that would work it would make us lose faster so we dont deal with it great tip lad.

Building tank would make you lose, since adcs are meant to counter tanks which is why they have all that armor penetration.

But not quite the answer as to why an adc can facetank a bruiser building mostly dmg while also having a fat shield on low cooldown + a way to interupt autos

The answer to why they can tank a bruiser's attacks? Bruisers don't have enough damage to quickly burst down a lategame hypercarry adc with high attack speed since they have lifesteal.

The answer to having a shield on a low cooldown? It's one of the new items.

Hope this cleared up your questions then

dominusxOct 19, 20161 votes

meant my shield ofc not her BT which is around 350 if i remember right.

cinomenapplebaeOct 19, 20161 votes

Save flash to just jump on the adc with Riven and You might want to get item 3142 item 3074 against a very squishy adc

dominusxOct 19, 20161 votes

that's the fucking point they are not squishy and trust me i've played riven for years ik what i'm doing

cinomenapplebaeOct 19, 20161 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/984599e4dd6a16299f456b106bdc79e1.png

dominusxOct 19, 20161 votes

ok then add 25k on eune friends account 43k on my secondary eune account 30k on euw smurf account so that is roughly 124k. and trust me mastery doesnt mean shit when it comes to actual skill. Also you can tell i'm not playing on that acc since it's inactive since july

KaiokoOct 19, 20161 votes

I love my jinx and yes she can facetank but not as soon as you're thinking. The best build for Jinx is item 3006 item 3085 item 3031 item 3094 item 3036 item 3072 (sometimes you change #3 and #4 depending on how fast the enemy got armor)

Notice how you're forced into getting IE and one crit item (this is true for most ADCs) meaning you cannot build BT until after that or have your damage not keep up. ADCs like Jinx can ideed facetank pure damage dealers but only in the late game once they have their damage dealing, attack speed, crit and most of the time armor penetration items.

Keep in mind that the lifesteal is based on the damage done after armor therefore not having lifesteal and attacking that 400 armor rammus with thornmail means that not only will you deal no damage, you'll actually be killing yourself even with BT.