Warwick needs to be toned down.

Darth Sidiouss·Feb 6, 2017·2 votes·724 views

Hes under powered you say? then why do people play him? yeah anyways hes too strong he has too much movement speed on the map he is literally everywhere and has quite a bit of map pressure too like kindred does with her marks. Sustain and peel and cc its too much for this champion to have overall with his current map pressure. In the heat of things he is capable of turning a good situation into a completely bad one , he needs movement speed nerfs and less pressure overall on the map no problem with his dmg or anything its just he does not need to be everywhere at the right moment in time for picks its broken as hell.

13 Comments

Attticus FinchFeb 6, 20171 votes

Provide statistics to support your argument.

Darth SidioussFeb 6, 20171 votes

The majority of the player base isn't diamond. Low elo has the tenacity to have people choosing new champions , reworked champions , champions they have never played etc. %% wont be accurate yet since the people in higher elo dont risk their MMR / LP they will stick their mains and champions they are familiar with but in low elo you will see the problem manifest much earlier because people down here will always be eager to try new shit to climb out.

Im not complaining about Khazix Zac Hecarim Rengar LeeSin who are all popular yet i am complaining about Warwick . Through observation and playing against him many many matches i think he is over tuned.

Attticus FinchFeb 6, 20171 votes

That's a long roundabout way of saying that you have nothing to support your assertion. Here, I'll provide some statistics for you then.

https://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

At NO elo in the game, not even bronze or silver, is Warwick doing particularly well. So on what actual basis beyond your own anecdotes are you basing the claim that Warwick is overpowered? If anything the data points to him possibly needing some buffs.

Edit- Also your assertion that people stick to their mains in higher elo is false. Not only do higher ELO players have a larger champion pool on average than low ELO players (they understand that playing a champion is the best way to learn how to play against them), but Warwick has the second highest playrate in diamond+.

Darth SidioussFeb 7, 20171 votes

Remember Camille ? she wasnt exactly on the radar either till much after her release. %% in wins and overall shit scales with time of playing the champion over and over , New Warwick isnt as simplistic as the old one there are plenty of mechanics involved with him. All it takes is the time of mastering the champion to reveal new ways to abuse the champion which is why Azir 's win rate scales over time of the player playing games with him. If i decided to play him right now i would be trash, give me 300 - 400 games and ill be scary with him.

Darth SidioussFeb 7, 20171 votes

At the time of Camille 's release on the boards there were many justified players claiming she was balanced and fine and pretty much defending anything about her now look where we are.

Handy Sandy Feb 6, 20171 votes

then why do people play him?

Because he was just reworked and that makes him popular. It's like saying Zed is op just because he's played a lot.

Shuyin178Feb 6, 20171 votes

Warwick suffers from an inability to reliably gapclose. He loses his movement speed the second he enters combat (so 1 ranged attack stops him) making his easily dodgeable ult the only way to get in close when chasing. Warwick is good, but he's not great. To top things off, people constantly build him wrong. The attack-speed HP% build is the wrong build to go on him. It makes him to squishy to ever matter.

Solaris VentaraFeb 7, 20171 votes

I personaly find building a bloodrazor and guinsoos give enough damage while i build a titanic and tankage to be a relyable build

Asayake 5150glowFeb 7, 20171 votes

He's only got too good early ganks, as in wards literally don't do shit top lane, he will still catch you and kill you.

His W also shouldn't be an escape, like what happened to hunting champions? Or does he also hunt the quickest route to his fountain?

Darth SidioussFeb 7, 20171 votes

Exactly he should gain speed towards his prey not both ways around.

EndlessSorcererFeb 7, 20171 votes

Enemy champions below that amount are also Blood Hunted, granting him out of combat bonus movement speed while moving toward them as well as highlighting their position to his team.

Huh, that sounds like exactly what it currently does.

Solaris VentaraFeb 7, 20171 votes

His w isn't even an excape, it only works moving TOWARDS low enemies, if you move away all that extra speed drops off imediately.