For those who don't know her passive adepts to AP or AD damage and grants a shield based on max HP based off of 20% of her max HP. Remember tank ekko ? This champion has a kit to escape or not let her prey escape as well and thats far more cancerous than tank ekko used to be.
Daxanater90 votesinb4 youtube video titles
"TANK CAMILLE NEW BROKEN?!?!" "OMG THIS IS THE NEW BROKEN - FULL TANK CAMILLE JUNGLE"
brofesco/redmercy Nightblue video
predictions 50-60% wnr, it will be the highest rate picked top lane and 
will make it a bitch or 
1 week after release there will be at least 10 threads about it with no rioters response.
rioter makes long post on mistakes about the champion
nerfs to the dust
releases new skin with buffs
camille will be back in tank or full ad.
profit
Spice POWAH5 votesLowkey this is probably exactly what will happen.
Doseqis18 votesTo be honest i can see it pretty well, she seems like the rioters had a contest on who could make the most overloaded champions recently.
warpenguin5555 votesthey had to ban CT from it first, or he would instawin
MontethePython6 votesNostradamus? Is that you?
RiotRiot Scruffy68 votesCamille is a "Diver" type fighter. We expect her to build 2-4 tank items like Vi or Irelia (also divers).
Quah26 votesThank you!! I have been saying this since her reveal. The only time people were saying that she would go full damage was when her Q could crit.
Nathaniell113 votesAnother tanky bruiser with true dmg which you cant shake off, ever, great.
Quah10 votesI will say that she probably needs number adjustments, likely a nerf to the CD on her E. But the damage window on the true damage is pretty long, and in a teamfight scenario she is too big a target to not have hard CC dropped on her to stop the second Q hit. If she doesn't use the second activation of her Q within about a second of the true damage activation, she loses it until the next cast.
NightmareAmazoX4 votesExcuse me she has that sweet juicy W which gives her health and slows target for 80% its a really good ability if there is a fight at baron, She'll just hook off like batman and come at your face with that Hextech Ultamatum.
Quah5 votesThe wind up on it is huge, it's super telegraphed, she is animation locked while it winds up, the heal is really not that much unless she hits EVERYONE, and it is not that big of an area that it hits in.
coreychichi1 votesYou know when I trade with a champion and I take damage but they don't Cuz "lol free shield passive I don't have to manage" it seriously makes me hate the game.
Glory ln Death6 votesEasy solution: counterpick her with champions who deal mixed damage. The shield only blocks one type of damage.
Plus, it has a pretty short duration and a decent cooldown. So take the initiative and engage on her to get off a bunch of damage before the shield, or engage while it's on cooldown.
NightmareAmazoX7 votes
The one and only!
PaladinNO5 votesI just need to know one thing:
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3VEZwPIgI
...isn't still the case, right?
Wow, randomly downvoted for asking a simple question. And yet I was the one recently accused of being a toxic individual... xD
CrazedPorcupine12 votesyes that was removed, about a day after camille went onto the PBE.
Randomonium1 votesReally? I figured she would be considered a skirmisher.
On another note, does Riot consider Kled a diver or a skirmisher? (My guess is diver.)
NightmareAmazoX5 votesHis ultimate screams Diver. Heck everything does from Voice lines to abilities names. Lol.
Anonagon1 votesHis ultimate actually is not very "diver" at all, considering it locks him onto the first target he sees, meaning he can't ignore frontlines the way many divers want to.
Kled is a skirmisher, through and through.
Randomonium1 votesAnd this is why I wanted a Rioter to weigh in on the topic. He has both diver and skirmisher aspects to his kit.
Anonagon2 votesNo, he has basically entirely skirmisher elements.
Divers and Skirmishers are very similar classes but there are two major points of differentiation - their mobility and their defenses.
Divers have powerful, cooldown gated mobility spells that either have huge reach (Vi Q, Irelia Q, Camille E) or insane reliability (Pantheon W, Xin Zhao E). These spells are designed to get Divers onto the enemy backline. Skirmishers on the other hand don't have mobility spells on basic abilities with such raw gapclosing power. They instead have mobility that is much more persistent and repeatable - mostly very low cooldown, short range dashes (Fiora Q, Yasuo E), with the noticable exception being Gangplank, who simply just gets lots of speedboosts. Kled's E falls directly in the latter category, being a very short range dash with an effective 3 second cooldown lategame (2 casts on a 6 second cooldown).
For defensive tools, Divers often have very simple, relatively low-power tools, if any at all. Skirmishers on the other hand have incredibly powerful defensive tools, but they are much more gated (Wind Wall 26 second cooldown), they are often expressions of skill (Grand Challenge), and they often scale with offensive stats or reward offensive play (Valor). Kled's remount is a perfect example of this - its an insanely powerful defensive tool, but its only going to ever happen once in a long while and Kled has to play risky to get it.
While those two are really the only important things when it comes to classifying him as a Skirmisher over a Diver, the rest of his kit also leans into a Skirmisher playstyle. All his skills have massive bonus AD ratios. The ways his W works prevents him from saving his damage for a priority target like a Diver would want to. His ult grants him a massive AD scaling shield.
His ultimate isn't intimately tied to being a Skirmisher, but ultimates don't define what class a champion belongs to, unless its on a basic ability cooldown like Kassadin or Corki. Ultimates give champions access to tools from outside their class and give them a reason to be picked over similar champions. Kled's ult gives him the unique distinction of being a Skirmisher with hard engage.
The Yetii Rider2 votesCamille is a "Diver" type fighter. We expect her to build 2-4 tank items like Vi or Irelia (also divers).
Can I ask what the reason is for the bonus auto damage on her ultimate being magic damage instead of physical?
Quah1 votesFeel free to correct me if I am wrong Riot, but I would guess that it is so she is a more effective tank killer?
The Yetii Rider4 votesFeel free to correct me if I am wrong Riot, but I would guess that it is so she is a more effective tank killer?
But she builds Black Cleaver. She would deal more physical damage than magic to a target who builds armor and MR like a tank.
Quah1 votesBut the magic damage is % current HP, is it not?
The Yetii Rider1 votesBut the magic damage is % current HP, is it not?
Yes but that's not my point. My question is why make the % damage magic instead of physical?
Quah3 votesBecause split damage means that a tank she is laning against has to build split resistances early or take a ton more damage from the ult's bonus damage.
Irelia Bot23 votesLasting for 1.5 seconds to 2.5 seconds with a 20 to 10 second cooldown.
The devil is is the details. She will however likely have similar builds to Irelia given that she does have short enough cooldowns that Trinity is a good option. She is a dive fighter not a juggernaut and not an assassin.
Scoroct3 votesShe sounds a lot like a combination of Irelia and Vi
MunchCrunchLunch22 votesStep 1 : pick
Step 2: Build 
into full tank
Step 3 : ?????
Step 4 : Profit
SaltyToplaneGoat7 votesEh why trinity? 
+ item of choice, preferable with HP.
Should do the trick I guess.
Chromatic Eagle1 votesWhat should her runes and masteries be?
Electro5223 votesConsidering she has practically no AP scalings, I'd say a normal AD top lane rune page.
9 AD marks 9 Armor Seals 9 MR or Scaling MR Glyphs and then 3 Quints of AD
Simple.
TotalJerk1 votesHer cooldowns are far too high for Trinity Force.
Nathaniell14 votesYeah.. first item trinity = 20%CDR + 10% from runes.. and they wont be anymore. Her Q has 6 sec CD and starts with her first cast.. not her last.. so with 30% you have 4.2. You Q with TF, wait 2 sec Q again with TF, wait 2.2 sec and you can do it again.. doesnt seem as high CD for me.
ModCaptainMårvelous16 votesAs a small reminder: Camille isn't an assassin. She's a fighter/bruiser.
She's SUPPOSED to build tanky with some AD. She's not a character you go in, get a kill then get out with. She's a character who goes in and stays in. She also doesn't boast the utility Ekko does. (Ekko had a giant AoE shield and a metric fuckton of slows vs. Camille's single knockback ult, her slow and repositioning knockback.)
Jeddy01713 votesTo be fair, Ekko is intended to be an assassin while Cami is intended to be a diver like Irelia or Vi. One is suppose to build full damage & the other is suppose to build damage & defense. So it comes as no surprise if her most successful build has a number of tank items.
So this is not like Tankko, that shit was never intended & should never had existed.
Tychusfindlay9191 votesTo be fair, Ekko is intended to be an assassin while Cami is intended to be a diver like Irelia or Vi. One is suppose to build full damage & the other is suppose to build damage & defense. So it comes as no surprise if her most successful build has a number of tank items.
So this is not like Tankko, that shit was never intended & should never had existed.
Ideally a diver gets two-three damage items. If she builds like a juggernaut where she has only one damage item and tank afterwards and excels, it could be a sign of a problem (doesnt automatically mean there is one, but there could be one).
Orangesilk3 votesNot really, many divers get by using a single damage item like 
who builds 
and a VERY situational 
Or 
who goes 
ModAcademy Kayn6 votesI mean, they made Kled and stopped any Tank Kled abuse, so I'm fairly confident Riot can pull off Camille nicely. But only time will tell.
L0ve Is Blue6 votestank ekko had:
loads of health
3 slows a stun a way to recover all its health in a second AOE damage
The only cc Camille has is a small ass stun and her kit does no damage if she doesn't build AD because all of her spells scales with it and she is auto attack reliant. Litteraly ALL of her damage is single target but her W. She will be about as strong as fiora, nothing more.
PaladinNO4 votesYou actually sound surprised...
Frankly, I'm not really sure what's the point the PBE at all, considering how utterly broken a lot of the stuff coming out of it really is. Okay, so Azir is a horror-story on how much of a nightmare something actually can turn out to be to get right here, but over, say, the last 20 champions released, how many was actually buffed on week 4-6 after their release?
I REALLY don't understand why even the so-called high-ranking, in-house playtesters can't see this even after so many occurrences.
Much like Daxanater says, there is a pattern to find on this: Week 1: 7800 IP / 975 RP (released broken, so as many as possible will - hopefully - spend money on it). Week 2: 6300 IP / 975 RP. Week 3: In free champion rotation (in the hopes of even more people unlocking - preferably buying - her). Week 4-5: Nerfed.
Later: New skin with buffs.
Profit indeed.
And this is especially right:
1 week after release there will be at least 10 threads about it with no rioters response.
Chembaron Yamada8 votesThat pattern didn't work out for the newest champions we got, don't you think?
Everyone yell'd that this guy is going to be broken on release. Turned out he was perfectly balanced and still is til today.
Everyone said he is useless trash in the beginning. Turned out that just no one knew how to actually play him because his play style is different from everything we had in the game this far. He is super strong now and actually needs nerfs, but just several weeks after his release.
People are losing their mind every time a new champ gets released. Let Camille stay some time on the rift and we will see how her balance status turns out. But saying that Riot is creating overpowered champs intentionally is not correct in my opinion. Granted, back when they released Azir and Kalista, they made mistakes by giving these champions too many strengths. But they learn from their mistakes in my opinion. Kled is the perfect example for this. Clear strengths and weaknesses, absolutely balanced and he is incredibly fun to play.
NightmareAmazoX2 votesLol agreed. Ivern has the highest win rate of all the junglers, His bard 2.0!
Matezoide3 votesI thought that was common knowledge already?
Then again, almost nobody but MagikarpUsedFly called Tank Ekko being cancer on release.
TTK Dreadnought2 votesIm pretty sure Kled's still a champion too.
KekOfTheFinest39 votesKled has full on bonus ad ratios,making him deal 0 damage if you go full tank.
MunchCrunchLunch7 votescamille has 1 base ad ratio and its fairly low
President Swa1n9 votesEkko only ever had AP scalings, too.
Jeddy01716 votesEkko had a ton of CC, too. This let him get by without building AP & relying on base damages.
