diana needs to be toned down again.

lolipopevelynn·Oct 25, 2015·11 votes·1,575 views

she is at that point of her champion lifespan where she deals too much damage while being too tanky. its time to take the nerf bat to her again.

52 Comments

ZephyrDrakeOct 28, 20155 votes

someone got destroyed by a fed Diana it seems

Mecha MaIphiteOct 25, 20154 votes

I learned Mordekaiser just so I could make life hell for Diana mains.

And then they gutted his mid.

Uva9x6gDhCOct 25, 20154 votes

Nah let's nerf Eve instead XD

OperationDEEZ1Oct 25, 20152 votes

GOD DAMNIT DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS.

lolipopevelynnOct 25, 20152 votes

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Nah let's nerf Eve instead XD

not even funny as a joke. eve has dealt with enough abuse from riots nerf bat in her lifetime.

Chaotic SageOct 26, 20151 votes

They'd nerfed her enough after they removed her stun tbh. Everything else was just excess.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 25, 20154 votes

No. She is one of the most balanced in the game right now. She is a fighter, not an assassin, therefore she is a little more tanky than usual champs like Kata or Yas. Stop QQing. She doesn't need nerfs. She has no escape routes and needs to hit one of her skillshots to even use her ult completely, unless she just wants to ult and have it go on CD.

She is fine as is.

BadmoonBCOct 26, 20154 votes

Most balanced champ in the game. She can snowball and therefore she's op right?

I mean come on people. I get why people complain about Leblanc or fizz or even Annie. But Diana?!?! Come on man... Diana is the most balanced champion in my opinion. Before I started playing Diana I used to always smack her around with swain... Diana's biggest weaknesses are swain Annie and vlads pretty annoying too. She is tragic pre-6. If you die to Diana pre-6 just stop playing this game... As for team fighting she is super duper balanced. Has to hit a skill shot to even ult in, and basically has to hit the right target cause otherwise she's going to be in your stack and dead in seconds. This champ needs no nerfs or buffs she is perfect

LordofthepitttOct 28, 20151 votes

She doesn't really have to hit a skillshot. For one, she can ult on an enemy anytime she wants. Its just better if you don't for obvious reasons. Besides, her 'skillshot' (easiest thing in League to lane lol) is on a 4 second cooldown at max rank so its not like missing it is a big deal. But even if you do miss it, alot of your damage comes from her passive which does the most damage out of every spell that she has.
I just don't think she is all that balanced.

TyroneWatermelonOct 26, 20152 votes

I don't think she is too overpowered,but the skill she takes to play is garen tier

C9 Scott Free Oct 26, 20151 votes

Thats just dishonest and you know it. I have never seen a low level even carry a bot game on Diana but have seen that on so many ADC's and Garen.

VekknaOct 26, 20152 votes

I'm not sure if she needs nerfs. She always manages to feel super overbearing to play against because her burst is super high, and her never-ending shield makes killing her feel impossible. She's like an AP Riven but with more burst and less mobility.

LordofthepitttOct 25, 20151 votes

I have sorta thought his for a while now. Sure... she can't do much if she doesn't hit her Q or whatever, but eventually she will hit it... and when she does she will probably kill you without you having much counterplay against it. Personally, I hate Diana.

OperationDEEZ1Oct 25, 20152 votes

The window for punishing her missing her Q is like 4 seconds.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 26, 20152 votes

And how long do you have to punish Ahri for missing a charm? Not much cause she can just ult out of whatever you do.

RogueWillOct 26, 20151 votes

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The window for punishing her missing her Q is like 4 seconds.

The real punishment is not her CD though but her mana pool. Is so shallow that if you keep missing you won't be able to follow up even if you hit one eventually (also is 5 sec)

SnugglePuggle94Oct 25, 20151 votes

She has way more counterplay than Yasuo does. She has no escapes. He has a wind wall and extreme mobility not to mention an annoying ass shield. She is perfectly balanced right now.

LordofthepitttOct 26, 20151 votes

She has a shit ton of burst potential, she can be tanky-ish as well. Her shield is massive.
Yasuo has a tornado that he has to hit to lane his ult, which doesn't do a lot of damage really. In teamfights he has the potential to die before he can even trigger his tornado, therefore he is team reliant alot of times. The window for punishing Yasuo's windwall is like 10 seconds, which is longer than Dianas. Yasuo does have mobility, however Diana doesn't need mobility because of her tankyness and burst potential.
You could have the argument that you could just dodge her Q, but eventually she will hit one, and then she will probably kill ya. And she snowballs easy. She isn't balanced at all man.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 26, 20152 votes

Because she is a fighter, not an assassin. That's why she is more tanky than the assassins. Good Lord. Yasuo's can always find a way to hit their tornado, and their double crit damage is insane. The shield always comes back up within a few seconds and by then he has healed from what little damage you were able to do to him if any at all because he probably would've spit his wall out of his ass, and then he jump on you.

I disagree. I'm a level 5 Diana and usually beat the crap out of Zed. But last night I hit a Q, ulted in, before I could do any damage he turned around on me and killed me because I didn't stupidly see how much MR he had in his runes and masteries. Not all the time can she do that. Plus if she does manage to hit a Q, just get some MR and have your tanks go after her. That's her main weakness, tanks and being CC'd to death.

Her numbers are in a fine spot. She has no mobility outside her ult. Her slow length isn't that big and her shield only blocks so much. She is balanced compared to other champs on here and isn't broken.

LordofthepitttOct 26, 20151 votes

Yasuo's main role is fighter, assassin is his secondary role. Diana is listed as Fighter, but can kill as quickly as an assassin while having the same health and frontline ability as an fighter. Yasuo can't really frontline because he is squish. Compared to Yasuo (and alot of other things) Diana is indeed overpowered.

BadmoonBCOct 26, 20151 votes

So you think Diana is a more "op" champ then a Leblanc or fizz? GTFO out of here dude. Ever notice how so many folks think assassins are op? Yasuo, Diana, Leblanc, fizz, zed, rengar, Katarina, akali, ahri, ekko, riven, and the list goes on. It's because hey have the ability To do an obscene amount of damage and 100-0 you. So unless your smart in lane you will let them snowball. This is why when so many of you cry op it's just laughable. Learn to deal with assassins. And if your just not that good, then don't pick your lane first. I can first pick Diana Jaycee lb brand swain Etc and not worry about being counter picked. But if I pick let's say Yasuo who I suck with then I' have the possibility of letting the enemy snowball. If you aren't comfortable with your lane/champ then don't complain when the enemy picks a snowballing champ and trashes you. Goodness Diana nerf threads are so ridiculous.

C9 Scott Free Oct 26, 20151 votes

It's funny cuz most of the champs you listed beat Diana but all these plebs just like to hate on a champ. I love playing Jayce into Diana TBH. It's freelo. I once had someone tell me how Diana was going to beat me once she hit six and I laughed and told them I am a Diana main and that's not going to happen. I went legendary. Most people pre tilt off of champion select though tbh.

RogueWillOct 26, 20151 votes

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It's funny cuz most of the champs you listed beat Diana but all these plebs just like to hate on a champ. I love playing Jayce into Diana TBH. It's freelo. I once had someone tell me how Diana was going to beat me once she hit six and I laughed and told them I am a Diana main and that's not going to happen. I went legendary. Most people pre tilt off of champion select though tbh.

Oh the Jayce... he is so annoying to deal with, you pretty much have to say goodbye to your CS when you see a Jayce walk into your base. Poked for ages, you want to go in? nope! hammered away; or you want to escape? Nope! Slowed down and finished off with Shock Blast. Honestly if he didn't have so much mana problems I would main Jayce purely on the ammount of skill needed to actually outplay him.

C9 Scott Free Oct 26, 20151 votes

After you all in them and push them lower than you just auto the creeps in mana form. Each auto gives you mana back Problem gets lessened severely tbh. Just dont go all in til level 3 so you have whole kit. Unless they are just handing out pre 3 first blood.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

I have beat most of those champions with Diana, and in fact she's a counter to a lot of them.

C9 Scott Free Oct 28, 20151 votes

I agree she is a counter to Katarina and Zed but the rest all seem like skill matchups to me or out of her favor. Jayce and Riven always seem to be a hard time for Diana. It could just be I have always been a better Jayce than the Dianas I played against.Shrugs

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

I've never played against Jayce with Diana, but I have destroyed him with Karma before. I have wrecked Kat, Zed, LB, Fizz, Yasuo, Ahri, Akali, Ekko, with Diana and haven't played against Rengar or Riven as I take her mid or jungle, not top.

I think the tanks like Riven are a counter to her. Sure she is a off tank herself but they have more health than her, and only if she goes tanky bruiser than she would have a chance.

C9 Scott Free Oct 28, 20151 votes

Thinking about it, LB matchup is actually pretty bearable. I usually win against Yasuo but I didn't think that was a full blown counter kind of deal. I beat Ekko, I have had akali matches go either way. I have never had fun against Rengar as anybody. Rivens have gone mid before and like I said somewhere else, that matchup usuall is hard AF until 3 items and 2 of those have to be deathcap and Hourglass. I have done well against Fizz. Every now and then one is better than me I think as a player. I can't remember the last time I played Diana vs Ahri so no comment. I have been the Diana like once in the Jayce diana matchup but I'm usually the Jayce there. Just dont even bother trying to kill him early game is basically the synopses. Including post 6

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

Yea most of the time I can beat them, but every once in awhile an actual good player gives me a fit and sometimes even beats me as they outplayed me or stacked mega resistances in their runes/masteries that I didn't check for before going in.

LordofthepitttOct 28, 20151 votes

Neither LeBlanc or Fizz isn't 'op' anymore. They are both just really annoying because they are some of the safest champions in league. Difference here being though, is that I personally don't think LB, Fizz, Zed, Rengar, Katarina, Akali, Ahri, Ekko, or Riven is unbalanced.
I actually played Diana yesterday, and yeah. She is op as hell. She does ridiculous damage and is almost as braindead to play as Garen or Yi. Compared to champions like Kalista, Azir or yasuo she is just so simple to use.
Its almost to the point of literally walking into the enemy team and smashing your forehead into the 'QWER' keys.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

That's basically what a Kata does, roll her face on the keyboard. But Diana is not overbalanced or op.

LordofthepitttOct 28, 20151 votes

Difference being that Kata doesn't have the survivability of Diana. I see where you are coming from, but I just disagree.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

Sure she has a shield, but she's not immune to CC like Morg's shield is, if it's magic damage. Diana is just as prone to being kited like Kat. That's one of her main weaknesses, besides tanks.

Diana is in a good spot, and people whining about her are just those that got whipped in the butt because they couldn't play against her. She doesn't need nerfs.

LordofthepitttOct 28, 20151 votes

Your argument is the same as anyone elses that is trying to defend their champion from rightly deserved nerfs lol.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

I am defending Diana not just because she's my favorite but because I know how stupid this guy posting this about her and I know as a player she does not need "rightly deserved" nerfs.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 26, 20152 votes

She is not overpowered. Her kit is fine and is not overloaded like Yasuo's or Ekko's is. Just like Annie, people QQ because they get roasted and don't know how to play against them. She doesn't need touching because some whiny people can't get over how to kill them.

It's really getting ridiculous and on my nerves because Diana is my favorite champ and people are whining about her. She's fine.

C9 Scott Free Oct 26, 20151 votes

go watch spotlight she is an assassin fighter mage zZZZZ

Skinny LatteOct 26, 20151 votes

"no escapes" doesnt matter because she almost always kills her target with her burst

BadmoonBCOct 26, 20152 votes

That's what assassins do dude...

SnugglePuggle94Oct 26, 20151 votes

She's a fighter not an assassin.

BadmoonBCOct 26, 20151 votes

She's listed under both bruh. Don't get it twisted. You can build her tanky/bruiser or you can build her aS high damage. I mean does it matter? Ffs I think xerath is listed as an assassin/Mage when you check box the assassin boxes lol

Lord AzırOct 28, 20152 votes

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She's listed under both bruh. Don't get it twisted. You can build her tanky/bruiser or you can build her aS high damage. I mean does it matter? Ffs I think xerath is listed as an assassin/Mage when you check box the assassin boxes lol

She's listed Fighter / Mage not Fighter / Assassin. At least do your research if you're gonna spit out random "facts".

BadmoonBCOct 28, 20151 votes

And at least try to stop splitting hairs. She's an assassin. Whether she is a fighter first or last she's an assassin. Xerath is listed under assassin so I guess we need to take that as gospel. Bottom line, stop crying. She's not op. Learn to lane against her.

Lord AzırOct 28, 20151 votes

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And at least try to stop splitting hairs. She's an assassin. Whether she is a fighter first or last she's an assassin. Xerath is listed under assassin so I guess we need to take that as gospel. Bottom line, stop crying. She's not op. Learn to lane against her.

What to you makes her an assassin? Because she's far from it, just because you can build her glass cannon and kill someone doesn't make her an assassin. Shyvana Jax Irelia Darius XinZhao can all headshot champions if built glass cannon. Are they assassins too? She's an AP version of these champions not an assassin. And late game Xerath can stun, W, Q and headshot any squishy so yes he is an assassin. I also never said she's "op" either so again spitting out random "facts" that aren't even true. Get your shit together bro because I play a hell of a lot more Diana than you do.

BadmoonBCOct 28, 20151 votes

Whoa whoa whoa And what to you makes her a fighter? Whenever people go "DUDE SHES A FREAKIN FIGHTER" or "DUDE SHES AN ASSASSIN" it doesn't matter to me. I am literally classifying her as both because THATS WHAT THE RIOT WEB PAGE HAS HER LISTED UNDER. I could care less what she is. She's a fighter and an assassin? Cool. Doesn't matter which comes first to me, she's listed as both. But see at the same time it doesn't matter what she's listed as either. My whole point is your arguing she's primary a fighter. My whole point is, it really doesn't matter, I'm just explaining the fact that she's NOT over powered... At all.

Lord AzırOct 28, 20151 votes

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Whoa whoa whoa And what to you makes her a fighter? Whenever people go "DUDE SHES A FREAKIN FIGHTER" or "DUDE SHES AN ASSASSIN" it doesn't matter to me. I am literally classifying her as both because THATS WHAT THE RIOT WEB PAGE HAS HER LISTED UNDER. I could care less what she is. She's a fighter and an assassin? Cool. Doesn't matter which comes first to me, she's listed as both. But see at the same time it doesn't matter what she's listed as either. My whole point is your arguing she's primary a fighter. My whole point is, it really doesn't matter, I'm just explaining the fact that she's NOT over powered... At all.

No it has her listed as Fighter / Mage. What makes her a fighter you ask? Let's compare her to a very popular fighter Jax . They both have empowered autos on their 3rd attack. Jax has leap strike which jumps to an enemy and deals damage, sound familiar? His ulti increases his magic resist and armor and Diana has a shield in place of that. Jax has a aoe stun, Diana has a aoe slow / knockup. Neither one of them have escapes if they commit with their gap closer and they want to get off as many autos as possible.

Now let's compare Diana to an assassin that's closest to her... Ekko . Now Ekko also has an empowered 3rd auto but only if he's attacking the exact same target for all 3 attacks but it then goes on cooldown for a few seconds. Basically saying "don't stay and keep autoing". Unlike Diana and Jax he wants to nuke a SINGLE TARGET with his passive and not just try to get off multiple autos on anyone around him. He has 2 escapes helping him get in and out of fights pretty easily after he's blown up his target and even has a slow. Now Ekko does have a shield but its also associated with his stun. If he doesn't get the stun off he can't sit in a fight like Jax and Diana can. That's why they are Fighters, they go into a fight and FIGHT. They don't leave after they blow 1 person up. Ekko is an assassin, he goes in blows someone up and then has the means of getting out of there. He has to wait for all his cooldowns to deal damage while the FIGHTERS, don't.

Its All SkillzzOct 26, 20151 votes

Diana is a fighter not an assassin, is that why the Diana in the bush 100-0 my ass in .65 seconds lol. seriously her damage is digusting and how tank she gets with just the shield which also does damage for whatever reason. and all this oh she has to land Q no lol she can R to you which takes a huge chunk of health with her combo and just Q after you flash or run away basicly already dead. she doesnt need to land Q she just needs to land it so she can spam her R incase you have a spell ready to run. i always ban her she is aids.

SnugglePuggle94Oct 28, 20151 votes

Fighters are more tanky than assassins dude. Good lord. She's in a fine state, you need to learn to play against her.

CHOPSTICKUHHOct 28, 20151 votes

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she is at that point of her champion lifespan where she deals too much damage while being too tanky. its time to take the nerf bat to her again.

You mean like, Darius? Garen? Just because a champion can build tanky and do some damage doesn't mean they're op. Tbh they probably snowballed and got fed. I play Diana religiously as my #1 main and all you have to do is deny her and shut her down trust me cause I've been in those game where I go 1/6 against my lane opponent because they realize the importance of stopping Diana early game

RandomoniumOct 28, 20151 votes

No...just no. All the data from every single elo and the pro scene supports that diana is very well balanced. Please give some stats or something to support your claim.