I'm saying you (low elo players).While I'm here you don't gut Azir.I don't allow.
Azir is fine and viable.Some low elo players can say ''he is op and strong bla bla bla.''
Low elo players you aren't pro players you haven't e sport team so your complaint is ridiculous.
Reach Dia and Master or learn counterplay against Azir.
Eedat4 votesReach Dia and Master
Yet you are posting from a gold account.
0/10 troll
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesYet you are posting from a gold account.
0/10 troll
I send my account.You continue same things?
Do you want dia account? Play with Dia account and see Azir's counterplay.
Eedat3 votesSend your account? All you are going to do is link a random diamond account that isnt yours. Why not actually post on it instead?
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesSend your account? All you are going to do is link a random diamond account that isnt yours. Why not actually post on it instead?
Look here
I send in the second page.
This account is smurf
My main account is http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/TR/%C3%82zir
I have one more account.But I won't send it.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes^^^
I'm not hater atleast.
SaltyKracka4 votesHow is it that you've been posting here all this time and you're still so incredibly shit at English?
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesHow is it that you've been posting here all this time and you're still so incredibly shit at English?
Keyboard and mouse.
SaltyKracka4 votesWell done. That made precisely no sense whatsoever.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesWell done. That made precisely no sense whatsoever.
Wondeful.I don't need unnecessary discussion.
Marshbouy3 votesIt's that one guy who can't understand how difficult Azir's kit is to balance! Aha look at him call everyone who doesn't think he is fine and viable because they understand the game low elo. lol
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesIt's that one guy who can't understand how difficult Azir's kit is to balance! Aha look at him call everyone who doesn't think he is fine and viable because they understand the game low elo. lol
Azir's kit is fine.Riot gave 5 or 6 nerfs.Moreover 4 nerfs in season 6.
If you are looking for broken kit you look Ryze.
If you don't know counterplay you can ask me.
Marshbouy3 votesYou still don't know what you are talking about.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesYou still don't know what you are talking about.
I know Azir's kit.Azir's kit is fine.
Even one of the finest kit.Remember old Azir.
Meanwhile Azir's win rate Bronze elo 47.63% Dia elo 43.87%
Marshbouy3 votesSo throwing up 2 win rates makes you right? okay. Does that make his massive LCS pick rate fine?
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesSo throwing up 2 win rates makes you right? okay. Does that make his massive LCS pick rate fine?
Is pick rate problem? Your attitude of mind is diseased.
Pick rate isn't only problem.Look Braum's pick rate.Is Braum op or strong?
Marshbouy2 votesIt does mean that he is a top tier support. I admit that it was a bad argument but if you really look at this kit. REALLY LOOK AT IT. You will understand that it is impossible to balance. Of course you won't admit this because you are acting like a child and think you deserve challenger or something but you can at least try. I am ceasing talking to you because it is useless.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesIt does mean that he is a top tier support. I admit that it was a bad argument but if you really look at this kit. REALLY LOOK AT IT. You will understand that it is impossible to balance. Of course you won't admit this because you are acting like a child and think you deserve challenger or something but you can at least try. I am ceasing talking to you because it is useless.
Maybe he is top tier but he is fine like Azir.
Azir's kit was broken in old times.Release, patch 5.11-5.15 and 5.17
Azir's kit is fine.
Stop Azir, Zed, Yasuo hate, especially boards has to the hate about this champions.
AlwaysByMySide2 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-22T23:47:54.594+0000)
I'm saying you (low elo players)
You're a low elo player.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-06-23T00:25:42.158+0000)
You're a low elo player.
Dia is low elo for you?
Ok bronze, silver and gold elo isn't elo for me.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votesazir is obnoxious and dependent on some things without much counterplay to thrive
You can outplay him or just perform fairly against him but Azir is toxic even if he isn't OP and thus can and will be nerfed sooner or later.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesazir is obnoxious and dependent on some things without much counterplay to thrive
You can outplay him or just perform fairly against him but Azir is toxic even if he isn't OP and thus can and will be nerfed sooner or later.
You were saying same things before patch 6.11. So not convincing.
Obnoxious, dependent etc.Empty excuses.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-06-23T00:39:02.308+0000)
You were saying same things before patch 6.11. So not convincing.
Obnoxious, dependent etc.Empty excuses.
what did 6.11 do to stop azir from chaining W > Q?? Did they slow down Q so people could dodge it more easily? Did they change the range? What did they really do. Last I played against him was as cait mid (because jayce wanted to be adc or something like this) and so found that trying to dodge his Q was still impractical and probably not possible in some cases.
they aren't empty excuses. If you want these issues to pile up so league can be a shit game where even while ingame nobody wants to play like when karthus's balanced ult was on lower cooldown and still balanced then you fail to understand how these nerfs work.
I won the lane and I won it fucking hard but azir is still toxic and still needs changes.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 voteswhat did 6.11 do to stop azir from chaining W > Q?? Did they slow down Q so people could dodge it more easily? Did they change the range? What did they really do. Last I played against him was as cait mid (because jayce wanted to be adc or something like this) and so found that trying to dodge his Q was still impractical and probably not possible in some cases.
they aren't empty excuses. If you want these issues to pile up so league can be a shit game where even while ingame nobody wants to play like when karthus's balanced ult was on lower cooldown and still balanced then you fail to understand how these nerfs work.
I won the lane and I won it fucking hard but azir is still toxic and still needs changes.
Stinger nerf, Ult duration nerf, w split push punitive nerf, ult ms nerf.They lowered Azir's kit.Rylai isn't Azir fault.Azir's kit one of the weakest kit without Rylai.You can not expect 8 or 10 nerfs.They are completely empty excuses.
You can win the lane but Azir isn't lane champion.Azir is teamfight and late game champion so your comment is strange.
Also you admitted.Azir is weak early game.
Azir's kit is fine.Finish in the games 20. or 25. minutes.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T00:53:37.614+0000)
Stinger nerf, Ult duration nerf, w split push punitive nerf, ult ms nerf.They lowered Azir's kit.Rylai isn't Azir fault.Azir's kit one of the weakest kit without Rylai.You can not expect 8 or 10 nerfs.They are completely empty excuses.
You can win the lane but Azir isn't lane champion.Azir is teamfight and late game champion so your comment is strange.
Also you admitted.Azir is weak early game.
Azir's kit is fine.Finish in the games 20. or 25. minutes.
I shat on him in lane, later he was a threat so I used my gold wisely and shat on him some more.
But my shitting on him and 1000 nerfs does not change the fact that he has a kit that zones the way it does. Its not appropriate, its toxic. You can nerf his damage to complete trash its still a toxic design. You can make teemo shrooms deal 1 damage or none really and its still a toxic design that isn't really safe to buff... and sometimes unsafe to nerf in azir's case.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesI shat on him in lane, later he was a threat so I used my gold wisely and shat on him some more.
But my shitting on him and 1000 nerfs does not change the fact that he has a kit that zones the way it does. Its not appropriate, its toxic. You can nerf his damage to complete trash its still a toxic design. You can make teemo shrooms deal 1 damage or none really and its still a toxic design that isn't really safe to buff... and sometimes unsafe to nerf in azir's case.
If so Azir doesn't need nerfs.Nerfs don't change him.Nerf calling is illogical.Rylai nerf and some Azir buffs may change him.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:01:15.652+0000)
If so Azir doesn't need nerfs.Nerfs don't change him.Nerf calling is illogical.Rylai nerf and some Azir buffs may change him.
There are plenty of nerfs that can get the job done, like changing how long it takes him to give his soldiers orders after spawning them. At lower levels in particular, if you are getting hit by his soldiers after laning phase then tough shit, change your strategy.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesThere are plenty of nerfs that can get the job done, like changing how long it takes him to give his soldiers orders after spawning them. At lower levels in particular, if you are getting hit by his soldiers after laning phase then tough shit, change your strategy.
People are complainant about Azir's damage.But I disagree.Azir's ap ratios are fine like Cass.
People don't like Azir's damage.
I didn't see Azir kit complaint.
Also I raise.Azir is the weakest champion until Rylai.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:05:40.441+0000)
People are complainant about Azir's damage.But I disagree.Azir's ap ratios are fine like Cass.
People don't like Azir's damage.
I didn't see Azir kit complaint.
people who complain about damage are often people who don't understand the difference between a lot of damage and toxic damage.
People used to complain about prerework kassadins damage but his damage wasn't that good you just could never make him stop and if you could he'd just blink away
Azir has the same issue. He has a toxic delivery method. As cait I just stopped him by letting him hit me, I couldn't just dodge that was a waste of time. I had to just outgun him with some ugly brute force plays and then get out of his damage range after his Q and take some more free damage from autoattacks and risk getting ganked (not much risk cuz I do this after I ward but still, jungler was nocturne anyways.)
ugly design led to ugly gameplay. A lot of people don't have the the chesthair to do what I did and their champ would need mana to attack from that range anyways. Its not really an appropriate design. I think his W Q combo should be slowed way down and he should be compensated with something other than damage.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votespeople who complain about damage are often people who don't understand the difference between a lot of damage and toxic damage.
People used to complain about prerework kassadins damage but his damage wasn't that good you just could never make him stop and if you could he'd just blink away
Azir has the same issue. He has a toxic delivery method. As cait I just stopped him by letting him hit me, I couldn't just dodge that was a waste of time. I had to just outgun him with some ugly brute force plays and then get out of his damage range after his Q and take some more free damage from autoattacks and risk getting ganked (not much risk cuz I do this after I ward but still, jungler was nocturne anyways.)
ugly design led to ugly gameplay. A lot of people don't have the the chesthair to do what I did and their champ would need mana to attack from that range anyways. Its not really an appropriate design. I think his W Q combo should be slowed way down and he should be compensated with something other than damage.
But you know.Kassadin is dead.They gutted him following they didn't look to the face.Azir isn't op or strong.That's the important thing.I wouldn't want to see same things.
A lot champion ugly desing.Fizz, Diana, Karma, Ryze etc.Maybe.I don't like people salty.Azir's kit is weak, the only problem is Rylai I'm sure.You can compare Liss, Ryze and Fizz's kit.
Azir's kit is fine only problem Rylai.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:21:07.166+0000)
But you know.Kassadin is dead.They gutted him following they didn't look to the face.Azir isn't op or strong.That's the important thing.I wouldn't want to see same things.
A lot champion ugly desing.Fizz, Diana, Karma, Ryze etc.Maybe.I don't like people salty.Azir's kit is weak, the only problem is Rylai I'm sure.You can compare Liss, Ryze and Fizz's kit.
Azir's kit is fine only problem Rylai.
rylais is fine its azir. earlygame azir in particular.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesrylais is fine its azir. earlygame azir in particular.
Really? Early game Azir in particular? No kill pressure, mana hunger champion, no real CC without Rylai.
Rylai was problem for Azir.It is still problem.My idea never change.40% slowing is huge.But without Rylai Azir is very weak champion.
Try Rylai build and following try without Rylai.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:27:53.480+0000)
Really? Early game Azir in particular? No kill pressure, mana hunger champion, no real CC without Rylai.
W > Q > zoning
later he doesn't do much a lot of champs can't do aside from insta cut off paths.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesW > Q > zoning
later he doesn't do much a lot of champs can't do aside from insta cut off paths.
W and Q 1/4 mana at lv2.
You be obliged to base.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesW > Q > zoning
later he doesn't do much a lot of champs can't do aside from insta cut off paths.
Also you say Azir's spell.Flash+ what?
You don't get ignite so Azir's early game kill pressure is 0 so Azir's early game is weak.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:32:13.392+0000)
Also you say Azir's spell.Flash+ what?
You don't get ignite so Azir's early game kill pressure is 0 so Azir's early game is weak.
not even sure what you just said here
flash?
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:31:00.279+0000)
W and Q 1/4 mana at lv2.
You be obliged to base.
doesn't make much difference due to all the changes
meditation mastery and new itemization
YurÌ on Ice1 votesdoesn't make much difference due to all the changes
meditation mastery and new itemization
sorry but most of what you say about Azir is wrong
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Miss Janna,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004,timestamp=2016-06-23T04:27:09.492+0000)
sorry but most of what you say about Azir is wrong
specifics please
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesnot even sure what you just said here
flash?
Azir's spells? Flash+ what? Ignite or barrier or cleanse?
You will say Flash+ barrier or tp or cleanse.You will not say ignite.This means that Azir's early game is weak.Azir's kill pressure is 0.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000006,timestamp=2016-06-23T23:15:45.084+0000)
Azir's spells? Flash+ what? Ignite or barrier or cleanse?
You will say Flash+ barrier or tp or cleanse.You will not say ignite.This means that Azir's early game is weak.Azir's kill pressure is 0.
I wasn't even talking about summoner spells. He took heal I think.
Maximum Morde2 votesSo, nerf Azir?
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-06-23T01:26:17.908+0000)
So, nerf Azir?
No one.Leave Azir.
Pnakotic1 votesAzir need some love for sure, the trend is => when you are bronze you have relatively win rate, but when you come to a high elo player, the trend is more lose, and the win rate fall apart.( not sure if normal ... lol )
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesAzir need some love for sure, the trend is => when you are bronze you have relatively win rate, but when you come to a high elo player, the trend is more lose, and the win rate fall apart.( not sure if normal ... lol )
I don't want buff or nerf.Azir's win rate and 125+ games win rate is normal.So leave Azir mains.
Pnakotic1 votesnot a nerf or up, but make a list of cons / pros, and take the right step, to make it good. (i'm Azir player since the release ^^. I don't like hard nerf / hard gameplay change in general, i prefer tweaks /adjust.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesnot a nerf or up, but make a list of cons / pros, and take the right step, to make it good. (i'm Azir player since the release ^^. I don't like hard nerf / hard gameplay change in general, i prefer tweaks /adjust.
I said as you say.Azir got hard nerf patch 6.11 so Azir doesn't need new nerf.
YurÌ on Ice1 votesis the OP 13 years old?
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Miss Janna,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kFBZEtqu,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-06-23T04:26:43.984+0000)
is the OP 13 years old?
What?
