Lee Sin, a champion that use to require skill to play...

Creamy Seaman·Apr 5, 2015·3 votes·768 views

Lee Sin takes skill and is a garbage champion.

The more downvotes you have the more right you are.

17 Comments

SookoApr 5, 20157 votes

It was a lot better when every teamfight for those safe assassins and mobile adcs didn't need any skill either and go like "heer deerr i canz focuses anyone i want widout any problem because tfs are won by whose damage dealer is more fed and nothing else anyway"

/sarcasm

Plus, Lee Sin didn't get kicked out of the meta (pun intended). In the worst of situations he is a tier 2 jungler that is no longer sitting on his throne with cobwebs due to how little it has changed over the years. Compare him to Eve or Elise and you will see what I am talking about. Lee is still viable, just like Nidalee (always good to know she remains viable, healthy gameplay all over her kit), Vi(able) and Jarvan IV(iable). They are just no longer the strongest champions.

Creamy SeamanApr 5, 20152 votes

Assassins have to use skills to get kills. Tanks just walk around with cinderhulk.

SookoApr 5, 20152 votes

Engaging, focus CC'ing, disengaging and peeling aren't given us for free by Cinderhulk

MohawkBirdApr 5, 20152 votes

Exactly Sooko. People act like just because tanks managed to get percent HP increase in the jungle and smite buff that they suddenly become freelo OP champions. But guess what? That is their role, that is their job. They are supposed to soak up damage and disrupt people. If you see a 5k HP tank walking around you shouldn't trying to fight said tank. Chances are, unless they are Vayne, they can last long enough to dish out their damage in a fight, especially against a 1.5-2k HP, squishy ADC.

Creamy SeamanApr 5, 20151 votes

The amount of defense you have should only matter if the Damagers are behind. Or if the tanks don't end soon they should be able to be beaten by a full build ADC. For example when Roy Jones Jr smashed through James Toney's defense. James toney was considered the greatest defensive boxer of all time.

RaptameiApr 5, 20151 votes

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The amount of defense you have should only matter if the Damagers are behind.

Everyone who considers taking the bait of the OP should read this first.

It is obvious where the OP's allegiances lie and which class he wants to make OP again.

thinking manApr 5, 20151 votes

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It was a lot better when every teamfight for those safe assassins and mobile adcs didn't need any skill either and go like "heer deerr i canz focuses anyone i want widout any problem because tfs are won by whose damage dealer is more fed and nothing else anyway"

/sarcasm

Plus, Lee Sin didn't get kicked out of the meta (pun intended). In the worst of situations he is a tier 2 jungler that is no longer sitting on his throne with cobwebs due to how little it has changed over the years. Compare him to** Eve** or Elise and you will see what I am talking about. Lee is still viable, just like Nidalee (always good to know she remains viable, healthy gameplay all over her kit), Vi(able) and Jarvan IV(iable). They are just no longer the strongest champions.

Eve's a way better champ than him right now though.

Shadow GilgameshApr 5, 20155 votes

A: Lee Sin is not that skillful of a champ

B: boo fucking hoo, tanks can do their fucking job again. They can crash into the back line and force your carries to move or die, instead of just ignoring the tank who deals no damage and carry on as if the champ were a cannon minion. Tanks still lose to ADCs with peel and good positioning, and still lose to fighters.

But no, you're obviously right, it was MUCH better when tanks lost to ADCs who didn't even have to move, died in a single burst from mages, lost to fighters, got shredded by assassins and could be 100% ignored in teamfights unless they brought a boatload of CC to make them worth something like Leona.