AP itemization feels so bad and restrictive.

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Whenever I play ADC or AD assassins, or tanks, or skirmishers I feel like I have so many options to choose from. From items like adaptive helm, to abyssal mask, to Mercurial Scimitirar, to Hexdrinker there are actually so many viable items.

While on almost every AP champion I'm restricted to the same items on virtually every champion besides maybe 1 playstyle specific item like a Rod of Ages, Protobelt, or Seraph's Embrace.

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Eedat14 votes

AD assassin core options:

  1. item 3147 + Electrocute

  2. ..............

Penns14 votes

Core is not "options" tho Their options are item 3026 item 3036 item 3033 item 3074 item 3748 item 3156 item 3031 item 3814 item 3072 item 3139 item 3153 item 3812

AP options are item 3102 item 3157 item 3027 item 3285 item 3116 ... item 3092 item 3174 ? lel

HaIlMonitor7 votes

You didnt even put all the ap items??? lol wtf

item 3151 item 3135 item 3146

Penns3 votes

Bcuz they are core items for the champs that build them, except Void Staff maybe

RocketRelm13 votes

Well, Void Staff is core on any AP champion that isn't a support and intends to do magic damage. I kind of hope that whatever "ap item rework" they've got coming makes AP items great again, but given that the Mid Year Mage Update is what put AP itemization in the dumpster, and that their response to not compensating AP champions for rune changes was "put even more of the AP power budget into Void+Sorc Boots, I'm not sure how much faith I have in it.

Divewing1 votes

Actually, the MYMU just put AP Itemisation further in the dumpster.

DFG's removal and subsequent replacement was Riot taking a shot from the 3-pointer line (granted it kinda had to happen)

Eedat11 votes

Sure if you ignoreitem 3089 item 3165 item 3003 item 3146 item 3135 item 3152 item 3030 item 3100 item 3151 item 3001

But hey, why give the whole list when you can just list a third of them to make your argument sounds better. Or are you going to tell me as a Fizz main you conveniently "forgot" about Lich and Protobelt?

But hey, item 3748 is an assassin item now I guess lol

Fizz Akabane1 votes

Most of these AD items are are sometimes "good" on AD assassins like IE as last item on Talon or Bork on Zed or something. Protobelt/GLP/Tear arent an option ever unless they are already a core item (item 3030 AurelionSol )

Got banned for 3 days for spreading the word of the godly revert so I gotta respond on this account lel

Tails90162 votes

But hey, item 3748 is an assassin item now I guess lol

Anything to get Press the attack/Electrocute off sooner

Eedat4 votes

Anything to get Press the attack/Electrocute off sooner

item 3285

Anything

LordGeovanni1 votes

item 3003 because immediate 95 ap isnt powerful when it scales to 140 because we didnt get the 140 right away

AirKingNeo1 votes

Assassins can't buy IE, BT, BoRK, LDR, Mortal, or either Hydra (well no one does Rav Hydra anymore).

Shadòw4 votes

item 3003 item 3151 item 3089 item 3135 item 3146 item 3030 item 3152 item 3100

Infinite Saught3 votes

All of those besides Void Staff are situational though. Deathcap isn't built anymore because of the gold sink for no real utility unless you're very fed. And even by then, the game is probably already over.

Poske1 votes

also If you are fed its better of to get utility since you probably already do damage

LordGeovanni1 votes

complains about magic resist items when they still 80% chunk people with magic resist but wont but the best ap item in the game because its a gold sink like thats not what last items are for. look at all the utility item 3151 item 3135 item 3027

Poske1 votes

item 3165 item 3135 item 3136

This are most common items

Anything else has mana scallings like ryze,kassadin, or desperately needs mana lika anivia/Karthus Tear Rod build

Hybrid scallings like katarina/akali

wierd item 3100 item 3145 with le blanc

Desperation build to make ekko viable item 3092 item 3152

Sol builds glp

and there you are covered

LordGeovanni1 votes

I like how you mash up 3 diffrent classes as options for non mages versus mages having much more options for any of those 1 classes. item 3074 isnt even an options same way item 3091 isnt an option for mages or item 3001 . you dropped these item 3003 item 3135 item 3151 item 3030 item 3146 item 3152item 3089

Rexxiee3 votes

Is this a troll thread? item 3020 + item 3136 = 2600 gold to do true damage to every non tank champ in the game that doesnt have 1 full MR item.

Mpen is ridiculously broken atm, you HAVE to build 1 full MR item as a bruiser to not get 100-0d by any ap atm since they all do true damage and you cant start with 12 flat mr anymore.

leakinb2 votes

2600 gold for 25 extra AP When you pay 300 more (2900) you can get item 3147 which is the most broken ad items

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Doing true damage also causes your bases to not get dropped by like 25% which means your all-in combo depending on the mage will do probably close to 100+ extra damage each time. There is a reason champions like Brand/Malz have ALWAYS opted for Pen over AP early game because their bases are astronomical and benefit from doing near true damage to people early on.

Dorans Pants2 votes

I just accepted that riot is not capable of balancing mages or their itemization and one small update won´t solve these fundamental issues it has. can´t wait for them to pull a "mage update 2.0", where they break 2 champs (or items in this case), make 3 useless or obsolete and fuck around with the rest without accomplishing anything.

i guarantee you. they could do 3 updates dedicated to ap itemisation and it would still be as restricted, BORING and underwhelming as it is right now.

Evil Yasuo2 votes

Assassins have 2 (technically 3 but edge of night is literally never built) items. Lethality items are assassin items. The other items you named are bruiser or adc items.

Warlord Scrap1 votes

Riots stated there doing an ap item update sometime in season 8

ÈvilMorty1 votes

When i play Anivia its the same build every game. Core: item 3027 item 3040 item 3020 oritem 3158 And because these items are so I can survive this who can one shot who faster meta (also synergize's really well) item 3157 item 3151 that leaves one slot left but will most likely go to item 3135

Poske1 votes

you build void as 5th item xd?

Newbie1287491 votes

item 3165 item 3165 item 3165 item 3165 item 3165 item 3165 item 3165 zzzzz

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