What actually counters Pyke?

FantasySniper·7/23/2019, 12:59:41 AM·1 votes·1,748 views

Even if he didn't have his hook to catch squishies, poke doesn't counter him thanks to his Grey Health, so that's right out.

I've tried silencing his channel with Soraka, but that's unreliable as all hell because he can just stealth anyways and it has half her silence's CD and a half mana refund from interrupts while we're at it.

Morgana has largely the same problem because of her Black Shield's CD, and only stupid Pykes all-in against her when they don't land their hook.

You would think tank supports like Alistar Leona, or the god of armor that is Taric could do something, but I've never seen them work because he always has a gold advantage that makes them lose the armor-lethality arms race. (And probably because tanks are worthless nowadays.)

Someone, please tell me which champ can tell Pyke to fuck off, cause at this point I'm getting desperate.

18 Comments

xox BaByDoLL xox7/23/2019, 1:50:16 AM2 votes

Shutting him down early. Like legit asking your jungler to camp bot and everyone focus the pyke for like 3 kills on him early or something lol.

People who main this champ are insane, his ult allows for multiple uses, he's yet another hook "support" which is all anyone seems able to play as support nowadays because of how cheap the action of hooking someone can feel/be, and depending on the build he can be beyond cheap and broken to play with items. But shutting down someone early, no matter the champ, can really hurt them. However, again, a Pyke main with lots of time on the champ can carry the game and possibly come back from being shut down early. The champion legit should be removed.......lol :D

iiGazeii7/23/2019, 4:00:17 PM2 votes

Dodge the hook. It's telegraphed and can easily be sidestepped or blocked by minions.

Pyke has zero waveclear. He can't help his ADC push out or push in. Freeze the wave in front of your tower, and you have a shield of minions to protect you from hooks and Pyke can do nothing to break the freeze, forcing the enemy ADC to step up for CS. If you want to back, shove the lane back out and force them to clear under tower for a free reset.

Poke the enemy ADC, not Pyke. Pyke depends on his laner to capitalize on the plays he sets up in the early game. If they're too low and are forced to play safe, Pyke can't get any value.

Set up control wards in the river so Pyke can't roam without warning.

Basically, only pay attention to his skillshots in the early game. Ignore him unless you have a bunch of CC ready to take him out in one go. Focus on dishing out damage to the enemy ADC instead of the wave so it pushes to you.

The thigh guy7/23/2019, 1:19:41 AM2 votes

1 of your teams 5 bans.

His counters are hardly counters anymore.

I think Alistar is probably his only true counter now.

Swollwonder7/23/2019, 4:49:38 AM1 votes

Late game CC. He gets absolutely blown up if you can keep him still when everyone finally has damage. Pyke does fall off so if you don't feed him in the early game you should be alright. Easier said than done though with how his ult currently works...

Raka can shut him down in lane but isn't going to be engaging on him.

Morgana should do alright

Alistar and Leona are good for that late game

Taric as bad. Pyke wants to build lethality, his E is bad against him, and by the time taric needs to use his ult, you're dead.

You know who counters him pretty much at every stage in the game? This guy Veigar . His box is an absolutely death sentence for pyke. Your adc can get poke off that gets past the grey shield limit (most people don't know that pyke can only accumulate so much grey health before it just becomes permanent damage), you can hit him with skill shots, he can't just w away and best of all your hugely damaging ult IS TARGETED. Even if you don't get him in the box, this little dude screws up pykes movement on either the escape or engage.

Pyke is definitely busted right now with how his ult works and definitely needs to be tuned down but you can play around him as awful as it is. And the best counter? Ban him in pre game.

Hope that helps.

Illabethe7/23/2019, 2:59:37 PM1 votes

First, comments on your picks:

when played correctly, Soraka is a 100% Counter. Her Q has vision, heals faster than he can damage, and E can both be a channel disrupter and can stop him from escaping a bad trade. Also, her ult can screw over his ult 100%.

My advice: if you're having problems with Soraka vs Pyke, be nonconventional and build Armor items like Frozen Heart.

Morgana's problem with Pyke is much simpler: HE DOES ALL PHYSICAL DAMAGE. All Black shield solves is a pull, and a stun. It does NOTHING to stop the incoming DAMAGE. If Pyke all ins Morg and she misses her Q (really easy with his W and E) He can just destroy her with damage.
Tank supports are too slow, and you're picking the wrong ones. Alistar can destroy Pyke, but makes Pyke USELESS if he has a good adc. The ally on hit stun is one of the most guaranteed CCs in the game and Pyke can't really play vs this synergy. If he gets stunned, he's dead.

The best way to deal with lane Pyke is simply overwhelming damage with moderate CC. Zyra keeps him from farming, any gold trinket, generally outtrades him, and can root him and disrupt his mobility dramatically. She can also do so from a safe distance.

Janna Her R is a game changer vs Pyke, and her Q prohibits his direct engagement. Shield is also stronger than his initial damage, so she can basically cancel him out. Her mobility also can be used as a chase tool so he can't slip away.

Nami In lane phase Nami purely owns Pyke. If built correctly she can do so the entire game; keep in mind Pyke generally does damage in melee range, and only has one engagement. Nami disrupts BOTH of those with Q, and her E slows him down so he can't stay close, or in many cases even run away. JUST DON'T GET HOOKED.

Bard Disrupts Pyke's mobility heavily with R. If he tries to run, hes going to get Stasis'd, and come out skill-less.

Jimmy Rustles7/23/2019, 1:06:00 AM1 votes

He's a melee champ

His Q is one of the slowest hooks

Grey Health only works if you cant see him, so warding bushes stops him from hiding in there and if he uses his W just to regen HP, you don't have to worry about it

Schenix7/23/2019, 4:06:44 PM1 votes

Rakan Lulu Nautilus Janna Bard

DuskDaUmbreon7/23/2019, 1:15:17 AM1 votes

Locking him down works pretty well. Anyone who can stay on his ass will fuck him over.

Rewt7/23/2019, 1:21:34 AM1 votes

Olaf Weaponized autism. Presses R and can no longer be stunned or pulled. Throws axes to Perma-slow him, and just smacks him till he dies.