5.22 11/18 Hotfix

Meep Man · 2015-11-18T16:52:11.300Z

Graves Movement Speed: 345 ⇒ 340 End of the Line (Q) Initial damage: 60/80/100/120/140 ⇒ 55/70/85/100/115 - Secondary damage: 90/155/220/285/350 ⇒ 85/145/205/265/325 - Mana cost: 55/60/65/70/75 ⇒ 60/70/80/90/100 Kog'Maw Base attack speed: 0.625 ⇒ 0.665 Base AD: 54.46 ⇒ 57.46 Warlord's Bloodlust (Ferocity) Now only works on crits against Champion or Champion's clone (Tool tip is currently incorrect) Thunderlord's Decree (Cunning) Now correctly works when several allies have selected this mastery This was released recently.

Meep Man·Nov 18, 2015·2 votes·2,401 views

Graves

Movement Speed: 345 ⇒ 340 End of the Line (Q)
Initial damage: 60/80/100/120/140 ⇒ 55/70/85/100/115

Secondary damage: 90/155/220/285/350 ⇒ 85/145/205/265/325

Mana cost: 55/60/65/70/75 ⇒ 60/70/80/90/100

Kog'Maw

Base attack speed: 0.625 ⇒ 0.665
Base AD: 54.46 ⇒ 57.46

Warlord's Bloodlust (Ferocity)

Now only works on crits against Champion or Champion's clone (Tool tip is currently incorrect)

Thunderlord's Decree (Cunning)

Now correctly works when several allies have selected this mastery

This was released recently.

18 Comments

JbelsNov 18, 20151 votes

I fail to see how shaving a mere 50 Damage off of his q and then making it cost more will unbreak Graves

Meep ManNov 18, 20155 votes

Who knows? Shaving 50 damage off of Veigar pushed him back to normal. Graves also got a MS nerf. Steady nerfs are better than an accidental butchering.

JbelsNov 18, 20151 votes

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Who knows? Shaving 50 damage off of Veigar pushed him back to normal. Graves also got a MS nerf. Steady nerfs are better than an accidental butchering.

If I remember correctly, didn't Veigar also get scaling nerfs too?

BattleOxeNov 18, 20151 votes

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Who knows? Shaving 50 damage off of Veigar pushed him back to normal. Graves also got a MS nerf. Steady nerfs are better than an accidental butchering.

Veigar nerfs made his early game even worse. His late game is still godlike. Same with Graves? Yeah, but graves can actually jungle, where he doesn't 100% rely on his DMG to get kill or farm

KONO RUBICK DANov 18, 20151 votes

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Who knows? Shaving 50 damage off of Veigar pushed him back to normal. Graves also got a MS nerf. Steady nerfs are better than an accidental butchering.

he got a freaking 30 mana cost increased

BattleOxeNov 18, 20151 votes

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he got a freaking 30 mana cost increased

Well, Darius got 20 if you remmember. And it changed almost nothing. Same will happen to graves. People will poke with it less, and will all in more. I guess that's what RIOT wants

KONO RUBICK DANov 18, 20151 votes

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Well, Darius got 20 if you remmember. And it changed almost nothing. Same will happen to graves. People will poke with it less, and will all in more. I guess that's what RIOT wants

because he didn't need it he needed a range nerf, and IT CHANGED SOMETHING, i played darius like 100 time in normals, after the change i was going oom in almost every game

LegendaryLemurNov 18, 20152 votes

I don't think anyone thinks it will: "In both cases we suspect we'll need to make further adjustments as well. We'd rather chip at some of the problem quickly and then reassess than try and do everything at once without sufficient observation time. " http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/B3Pe5U8H-preseason-qa

KorilloNov 18, 20151 votes

Graves base damage is still way too high. That should be adjusted as well not sure why it's not going out in this hotfix.

BattleOxeNov 18, 20151 votes

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Graves base damage is still way too high. That should be adjusted as well not sure why it's not going out in this hotfix.

Well, uless he hits a wall with Q, it shouldn't ever hit you. Atleast pre lvl7

LegendaryLemurNov 18, 20151 votes

Keep thinking that Leona

KorilloNov 18, 20151 votes

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Well, uless he hits a wall with Q, it shouldn't ever hit you. Atleast pre lvl7

What? I'm talking about his base damage... ie his auto attack damage is currently too high.

BattleOxeNov 18, 20151 votes

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What? I'm talking about his base damage... ie his auto attack damage is currently too high.

How much is it actually?

Meep ManNov 18, 20151 votes

60 correct?

PennsNov 18, 20151 votes

Id love a MF hotfix nerf lol

BattleOxeNov 18, 20151 votes

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Id love a MF hotfix nerf lol

Wait till Graves becomes berable. Then people will start complaining about her

KüramaNov 18, 20151 votes

She will be nerfed in Patch 5.13 on Wednesday, November 25th, 2015.

ProfDrDeathNov 18, 20151 votes

To all ADCs:

Remember to think about your build paths and mastery choices. Chances are high that Warlord's Bloodlust is less generally useful now, compared to Fervor of Battle. Also, crit is no longer a sustain stat with the update - plan accordingly and buy an early Vampiric Sceptre, that thing got a major buff in 5.22. It costs 100 gold more, but got 5 extra AD and 2% more Lifesteal.