tfw the 1-3 fiora with 40cs down can actually fight you.

dominusx·Jan 15, 2017·26 votes·2,272 views

sad.

60 Comments

ShadòwJan 15, 201719 votes

let me guess...

you tried to 1v1 her playing right into her strength?

dominusxJan 15, 20176 votes

her strenght beeing pressing R and doing fucktarded dmg because why not? And do you think i'd deny her 40cs and make her go 1-2 vs me by beeing bad against her? maybe the champion is a stupid lane bully that scales extremenly well into the late game? just a thought

ShadòwJan 15, 201712 votes

item 3070

she is called Duelist for a reason.

what are you supposed to do when behind? champions should still get to make use of their strength even when behind. so maybe apply pressure somewhere else while she is useless and don't play directly into her biggest strength.. ever thought about that?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJan 15, 20172 votes

fiora is the melee version of vayne...

dominusxJan 15, 20176 votes

u do know you have to actually draw preassure when you got a trash kid that watches trash gosu and int feeds the enemy anivia onetrick so you cant tf. and i'm sure the enemy vi didnt actually do ore than 300dmg to me since she just last hitted me after fiora run off to survive the bleed.

ShadòwJan 15, 201710 votes

are you actually doing more than complaining about champions?

when i just look at your posts from last 3 days, you were complaining about:

Zyra Ryze Orianna Fiora Hecarim Caitlyn Fizz Malzahar Velkoz

i mean, why do you even play the game?

dominusxJan 15, 20174 votes

cause the game is trash and broken. and every patch it takes less skill. all these champs i ever complained about were nerfed because guess what they were broken.

ShadòwJan 15, 20171 votes

i mean, why do you even play the game?

cause the game is trash and broken

you know, League isn't the only game out there?

TheHurricaneGamrJan 15, 20171 votes

Every champ has been overpowered at one point. That's why balancing exists. And while they may not get it perfect, they do a decent job of handling the extreme outliers on both ends of the spectrum (broken and weak).

SpoofghoulJan 15, 20173 votes

tbh all those champs are kinda aids right now, except for malz which is weird

Masala ChaiJan 15, 20171 votes

He's a special case, he's SPACE AIDS.

Spice POWAHJan 15, 20172 votes

That's the first time I've ever seen someone say malz isn't aids

did I miss a nerf or something?

Covert Ops GnarJan 16, 20171 votes

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are you actually doing more than complaining about champions?

when i just look at your posts from last 3 days, you were complaining about:

i mean, why do you even play the game?

that's only 1/4 of the broken champs

ValyrianBladeJan 15, 20171 votes

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she is called Duelist for a reason.

what are you supposed to do when behind? champions should still get to make use of their strength even when behind. so maybe apply pressure somewhere else while she is useless and don't play directly into her biggest strength.. ever thought about that?

This comment doesn't just apply to Fiora, but in general.

My problem with these arguments is when said "behind" champion misplays the 1v1 and still wins it because their kit is so overtuned for that purpose.

E.g. a champion being 0/3 and down 40 cs, misses his only source of CC, you land your skillshots, and he still wins the 1v1.

The other problem I have with this argument is that ADCs are USELESS when behind. Yet no one seems to have a problem with that. Why should a stat-stick melee champion get to still be strong by default despite shitting the bed all lane phase 1v1, when an ADC is useless after he's been dove 2v4 multiple times?

zarxus1234Jan 15, 20172 votes

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let me guess...

you tried to 1v1 her playing right into her strength?

I love how you defend that and it gets upvoted. Well she's a duelist so she should 1v1 regardless of how shitty she played. Lol what a joke. Balance i guess.

ShadòwJan 15, 20174 votes

because it's true.

when champion are behind and can't even make use out of their strength anymore, what are you supposed to do when behind?

3TWarriorJan 15, 20171 votes

lose or play defensively?

is an actual "bronze" supposed to be able to duel the ahead master just by stats alone?

ShadòwJan 16, 20172 votes

an actual master would not bother to fight the Fiora 1v1 anymore but meanwhile get objectives and fuck over the rest of the map

zarxus1234Jan 16, 20171 votes

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because it's true.

when champion are behind and can't even make use out of their strength anymore, what are you supposed to do when behind?

Farm under the tower like a bitch. If i play a mage and let the melee champ get 1 or 2 kills im not doing anything but standing under that tower and farming until team fight phase.

If you play bad and let your opponent kill you during laning phase you shouldnt be rewarded and be able to 1v1. But we all know bruisers and such are riots love child

AhristocatsJan 15, 20172 votes

better nerf darius

PermabannedGarenJan 16, 20171 votes

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better nerf darius

Well he is better than Fiora right now so yeah man, why not?

Critmaster GarenJan 15, 20172 votes

40 cs difference at 20 minutes is gigantic.

40 cs difference at 35 minutes is a lot smaller.

when did that fight happen? my guess is, the game dragged out, turrets fell, drakes were aquired, shutdown gold was earned, and she had her core items finished.

dominusxJan 15, 20171 votes

25 or something had to shove top she run up ult me start hitting me almost kills me then backs off so i cant finish her and vi hits me once and i die afterwards. aka she manages to go even with me in a fight only dodging 2 autoattacks with her w.

Critmaster GarenJan 15, 20173 votes

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25 or something had to shove top she run up ult me start hitting me almost kills me then backs off so i cant finish her and vi hits me once and i die afterwards. aka she manages to go even with me in a fight only dodging 2 autoattacks with her w.

wait what? so she couldnt actually kill you.

youre saying she would have died, but you got baited into a gank.

dominusxJan 15, 20172 votes

she did 95% of my hp while beeing BEHIND.and i had gw. if i didnt have itemized properly i'd prolly even DIE. it's sad. champs like Vayne and Fiora maybe yasuo too are SAD you can shit on them all you want they get 2 items and they can go even unless you got a 1500gold lead.

Critmaster GarenJan 15, 20172 votes

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she did 95% of my hp while beeing BEHIND.and i had gw. if i didnt have itemized properly i'd prolly even DIE. it's sad. champs like Vayne and Fiora maybe yasuo too are SAD you can shit on them all you want they get 2 items and they can go even unless you got a 1500gold lead.

youre saying she only got a kill out of bot lane?

how about turret first blood and assist gold? she might still have been slightly behind, but the difference might not have been as large as you thought.

also the problem is, we dont know how the fight itself went down.

FairyfleurJan 15, 20172 votes

What champion were you playing? If you're trying to 1v1 her as a champion that isn't a good duelist you're probably going to lose.

Maligaro SpikeJan 15, 20171 votes

i think he said darius somewhere

dominusxJan 15, 20171 votes

Yeh was dar butni didnt have a big armor item completed cuz anivia was oneshoting me another good champ btwbxdddd but she only had a fckn tabi and we both run fervor

SambersJan 15, 20171 votes

Just pick Poppy and shit on her soul

SpookyNeedleJan 16, 20171 votes

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Just pick and shit on her soul

Poppy ain't that hard of a matchup, play Pantheon

Armored YokaiJan 15, 20171 votes

mortal reminder or executioners will render fiora useless in duels if you can out dps her

dominusxJan 15, 20172 votes

had it. still bursted

420 gramsJan 15, 20172 votes

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mortal reminder or executioners will render fiora useless in duels if you can out dps her

You mean you want me to spend 800 gold to completely counter someone? Don't be ridiculous. Next youll be telling me to buy sightstone when I'm support to watch for ganks and dragon.

Armored YokaiJan 15, 20171 votes

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You mean you want me to spend 800 gold to completely counter someone? Don't be ridiculous. Next youll be telling me to buy sightstone when I'm support to watch for ganks and dragon.

it's just 800 gold and very useful against lifesteal champs like warwick,jinx,aatrox etc

DanjengJan 15, 20171 votes

Perfect example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sOUKNrPQyw Exactly a 40 CS difference too.

Critmaster GarenJan 15, 20171 votes

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Perfect example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sOUKNrPQyw Exactly a 40 CS difference too.

fist of all, this is old.

second, he parried a rune prison. thats incredibly hard to pull off, considering that thing is instantaneous.

SwaggyMcGhee420Jan 15, 20171 votes

She's a duelist... What's tilting is when their 0/2 Kennen with giant's belt can burst you even though you're a level up and should be much stronger.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 15, 20171 votes

fiora is the only champion in league that can actually do that. how many games I have in league. like over 3000. no champion consistently fights even when like an entire item behind and xp behind early game like fiora. I've been 1v1d by a fiora with a 4-5 kill deficit. shes a stupid champion anyone with a brain and undestands the game should know that. shes too strong but thank god she isn't a meta pick and she isn't the hardest champion but she isn't easy either. shes like intermediate in skill level. her ultimate is too strong . she is better than Jax in 1v1s yet her ult heal is way better than what jax can do in team fights.

SambersJan 16, 20171 votes

Poppy

MunchCrunchLunchJan 16, 20171 votes

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okay i hope the meme will end soon but this is a champion that has to be at least even to fight. if shes behind levels she can't 1v1 most champions because she depends on ability ranks and base stats.

PermabannedGarenJan 16, 20171 votes

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fiora is the only champion in league that can actually do that. how many games I have in league. like over 3000. no champion consistently fights even when like an entire item behind and xp behind early game like fiora. I've been 1v1d by a fiora with a 4-5 kill deficit. shes a stupid champion anyone with a brain and undestands the game should know that. shes too strong but thank god she isn't a meta pick and she isn't the hardest champion but she isn't easy either. shes like intermediate in skill level. her ultimate is too strong . she is better than Jax in 1v1s yet her ult heal is way better than what jax can do in team fights.

Jax dumpsters Fiora 1v1 as the game goes on.

So does Master Yi and Tryndamere. Maybe even Yasuo.

Fiora is an incredibly overrated duelist.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 16, 20171 votes

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Jax dumpsters Fiora 1v1 as the game goes on.

So does Master Yi and Tryndamere. Maybe even Yasuo.

Fiora is an incredibly overrated duelist.

master yi jax and sometimes yasuo have hard time laning against lane bullies. the only one that really bullies fiora i think is renekton. and pantheon.

PermabannedGarenJan 16, 20171 votes

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master yi jax and sometimes yasuo have hard time laning against lane bullies. the only one that really bullies fiora i think is renekton. and pantheon.

Quinn Teemo Tryndamere Kayle Jayce MonkeyKing Darius

Oh, and Renekton is not a particularly hard match-up for Fiora. Pantheon is virtually unwinnable though.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 16, 20171 votes

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Oh, and Renekton is not a particularly hard match-up for Fiora. Pantheon is virtually unwinnable though.

renekton is. teemo kayle wukong is 50/50. darius is a fiora favored matchup statistically. her Q cd is too low and she can never be hit by your Q if you consider she also has her W. she just beats darius tbh. coming from someone who plays a lot of darius.

PermabannedGarenJan 16, 20171 votes

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renekton is. teemo kayle wukong is 50/50. darius is a fiora favored matchup statistically. her Q cd is too low and she can never be hit by your Q if you consider she also has her W. she just beats darius tbh. coming from someone who plays a lot of darius.

Teemo Kayle and Wukong do not go 50/50 with Fiora LOL.

Teemo and Kayle constantly harass her in lane with damage she can't outplay (and neither have spells that are particularly effective to parry), and Wukong has too much burst and can fight her on his terms every time. I'm a Wukong main and Fiora is one of my favorite match-ups. She was easy even when she was at her strongest.

Darius loses later on to Fiora, but in lane? It's easy. See, that's the bad joke. Darius doesn't actually need his Q to kill people. His AA>W>AA alone is extremely powerful, especially if he continues to stack it. If he gets Noxian Might Fiora will probably die. The Q is just a bonus.