Kindred is one of the most absolutely unfun, stat checky designs in the game

Tychusfindlay918·8/20/2019, 6:50:12 PM·12 votes·2,566 views

Purely point and click on her damage.

Her infinite scale is horrificly toxic as range is one of if not the most powerful stats in the game, ESPECIALLY on a champion as mobile as kindred who is also an ADC design.

Get rid of her infinite scale mechanic and it may become a lot easier to change her around and even buff her, but buffing as she is right now is just asking for silliness. She has NEVER been a healthy champion, EVER.

16 Comments

Rewt8/20/2019, 7:24:14 PM7 votes

Honestly, I don't agree with this. Kindred is a fairly weak champion without her stacks. and it is fairly easy for a team with about 6 brain cells to deny her stacks.

Do you see that mark on scuttle? the Jungler should IMMEDIATELY stop what he is doing and go deny the stack. And the Mid laner should rotate up to help with the denial.

If you are marked by kindred you should ward up and play safe.

It's like Nasus, but even easier to deny. If she doesn't get her stacks she gets dicked. So you just aren't denying her hard enough. While I understand the complaint of "why should a champ be so strong that we have to be hyper-vigilant to stop her from getting her stacks" well its because she is actually just trash without them.

Now I'm looking at this from the perspective of a jungle main, but 90% of kindreds I play against don't get her first 4 marks (she gets her bonus range at 4,7,10,13,16,19,22,25 stacks) until like 16 min cause I just deny her has hard as possible. Then I keep track of who is marked and try to make sure I'm always there to make sure she can't get the stack. This basically forces the enemy team into a 4.25 vs. 5 cause she is like a 1/4 of a champ without her stacks.

You need to have a denial mindset. She is a stacker, Her true power comes from her passive and as long as you keep her denied she is useless.

Dasdi968/20/2019, 7:17:59 PM4 votes

Whats even worse is she isn't even weak early like she is supposed to.

preternatural8/20/2019, 6:54:40 PM3 votes

thank you, someone finally said it.

Sewer Side8/20/2019, 8:07:34 PM3 votes

Unfun statchecky toxic overloaded cancer degenerate power budget hypermobile %HP damage ZoeYasuoRiven

Did i put enough buzzwords for a Boards post now?

Baa Woof8/20/2019, 8:10:12 PM3 votes

You have (the OP) 0 games this season, how could you know?

"Her infinite scale is horrifically toxic" You know that it isn't scaling forever. It only scales up to 25 marks (good luck getting that many), and stops there giving Lamb +250 AA range. Which is only a 100 more than Caitlyn's base range. Pick Kha, Xin or Udyr for an easy counter.

The only reason they are good, is that the players who picked them are maining them. They know how they work, and you don't.

Kai Guy8/20/2019, 7:01:24 PM3 votes

She does have a hard cap on her Range gian and I think thats around 20 ish stacks so she cant out range towers. That being said she outranges a tower with item 3094 I believe around 13-16 stacks right? 4 3 3 3 3. 75 100 175 + Base + RFC > Tower range if memory serves.

used to run her off meta as an adc and still do. Assassin meta? Suck on my R bruh.

5050BS8/20/2019, 8:04:57 PM2 votes

Udyr : "What?" Jax : "What?" Tryndamere : " Ya What?"

Oleandervine8/20/2019, 8:03:26 PM2 votes

Some points:

  1. Kindred is a Marksman. Marksmen rely on auto-attacking things as it's part of what qualifies them as marksmen. Complaining that they rely too heavily on stats when auto-attacks are a HUGE part of their attack pattern is just dumb.
  2. Kindred's kit is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR from being "stat-checky." I'm pretty sure you don't know what that term means if you think Kindred is stat checky. She's got a variety of tools and utility functions in her kit that make her anything but stat checky. If you want to TRULY see a stat check champion, look at Volibear. His entire function is to either run in and hope he outlives and kills his opponents with nothing but the stats he's accrued, or die trying. That's literally all he can do.
boricCentaur18/20/2019, 10:32:26 PM2 votes

You sound like you never actually seen a kindred. Point and click damage is not unhealthy, range is not a powerful stat and this leads me to believe you actually never seen kindred since it is MUCH MUCH weaker after the rework. Annie got her range buffs a good bit and you know what happened fucking nothing.

Like guy 50% of your post is just unreadable like wtf does this mean "on a champion as mobile as kindred who is also an ADC design." Those are not words related to league,it's nonsense like adc design wtf so they play like jhin?

Daddy Ants8/21/2019, 10:57:43 AM1 votes

Last time I played vs Kindred I contested her at evcry single mark.

She ended up rage quitting when she had 2 marks at 25 mins.

Statchecky8/21/2019, 5:43:12 AM1 votes

I mean, they deleted Aatrox cuz he was "stat checky"... Why stop there, delete this bish, she an AD mage now.

Stack CDR gitgud.

14daysuspensionk8/20/2019, 7:38:48 PM1 votes

I don't know how it is in high elo, but in my elo almost nobody picks them and when they do, they aren't playing them in a completely broken manner.