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Can we just fix GP already

Jefftiffy··2 votes·475 views

His barrels are stupid obnoxious to deal with and late game they do way too much damage and are way too easily set up. Literally as an ADC you spend half the team fight trying to dodge the 800+ damage nukes being thrown at you every 2s. Meanwhile he's getting MS off them and slowing you for huge amounts.

I think Riot didn't realize that by not only buffing his oranges to let him bum rush the carry and adding a chase tool that can be used over and over again with almost no cost was a bad thing. Literally got zoned out of a team fight because I could not keep a GP off me for an entire team fight. The combination of his ult and barrels and oranges made it impossible to kite him at all. And if he gets in AA range its over because his passive is going to ruin your day. And if things weren't bad enough when GP was rushing me they had a Leona gunning for me the entire time and my team was unable to peel for that much chase.

I think Riot needs to decide if the barrels are made to damage or CC. They should not be both. Or at least nerf his combo. Don't allow him to barrel until his Q landed or make it so barrels have X amount of time before they can be detonated by other barrels. I understand that he recently got his combo nerfed. But it didn't make him any less obnoxious to fight against. The only thing I think keeping him under the radar is the juggernauts and devourer junglers.

I can't be the only one who finds him really obnoxious to deal with right now. Like he's not broken strong, but he literally dominates almost all 1v1s and at the same time is a god in team fights. The only way to stop him is to just kill him over and over again otherwise he gets really big. I mean old GP was pretty strong but he never just ran around AoE nuking and chasing people to the ends of the earth through CC (he didn't have a slow on anything but his melee aas and had a passive MS boost, nothing as major as he has now). The one thing I am really against is his AoE, its like just random stuff they threw in there because he didn't seem good on paper and because of that he is a pain.

I mean he is just one of those champs that is really obnoxious to fight period. He can easily run away, he does a ton of damage. He has kite, he has chase, he has global presence as well as it scales. I really don't have any clue how anyone deals with him once he gets ahead because he has so much going for him its insane.

8 Comments

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

He has to build squishy to do any dmg? What is the problem? Barrels are good only vs melees.

Jefftiffy1 votes

I also want to point out that he is up to a 45% ban rate. I think that alone points that a lot of people dislike him and that he is strong.

AL0001 votes

i agreed gp is really cancer with barrel and orange.. but he is not that strong or op so you can beat him like adc... so pick any champion with good burst with close gap...

win rate 50% pick rate 8% ban rate 12%

look like they wont nerf gp anymore...

Jefftiffy1 votes

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i agreed gp is really cancer with barrel and orange.. but he is not that strong or op so you can beat him like adc... so pick any champion with good burst with close gap...

win rate 50% pick rate 8% ban rate 12%

look like they wont nerf gp anymore...

http://www.lolking.net/champions/

his ban rate is at about 45%. The reason is he is so strong is he is very similar to the juggernauts and the whole doing a shit ton of damage while being tanky but he has the added benefit of range. To give a reference point. Darius is sitting at a 32% ban rate someone who is moaned about even more than GP while being weaker and people still not understanding that reducing damage = running to his face when he Qs not away from him. Yet is more popular due to his rework.

Only Play Darius1 votes

lmao.

Rabid Husky1 votes

it sounds like your just bad with avoiding the barrels and your not getting boots. his passive caused a slow for all forms of physical damage as well as being a poison so its better than being slowed when he shoots you and sticks to you. over all he needs to decide damage being squishy and being a real threat or being a tank that just chunks people in which case you will out damage or out sustain him. his major weakness is weak early game easily bullied and if your even half decent at dodging his barrels you can beat him, he does have counter play try taking teemo top or a lane bully lane yorick jayce or darius just watch his barrels and you can beat him

Jefftiffy1 votes

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it sounds like your just bad with avoiding the barrels and your not getting boots. his passive caused a slow for all forms of physical damage as well as being a poison so its better than being slowed when he shoots you and sticks to you. over all he needs to decide damage being squishy and being a real threat or being a tank that just chunks people in which case you will out damage or out sustain him. his major weakness is weak early game easily bullied and if your even half decent at dodging his barrels you can beat him, he does have counter play try taking teemo top or a lane bully lane yorick jayce or darius just watch his barrels and you can beat him

The problem with doing this is that as an ADC you cannot out sustain a GP in a team fight and if he builds bruiser, like most GPs are doing by building an IE and and trinity and maybe another crit item and tank, he does enough damage to explode the carry for about 800 damage and then walk up and AA kill them because of his passive. Late game the barrels set up way too fast and its way too easy to chain them. His early game I have literally no problems with. The problem is if he even gets slightly ahead the game is over. He is almost as bad as Akali was pre-nerfs (thank you the free armor pen for whatever reason Riot thought was balanced, seriously he gets 50% armor pen on a spammable ability while Yasuo has to ult to get that much).

Rabid Husky1 votes

unlike akali and yasuo tho his barrels really require you to not pay attention, and if his early game sucks then when does he have any power beyond crit what change to his barrels will keep them from becoming a chase tool and not something for combat. if you nurf the barrels to much then your making them worse than his old e since his e gave him passive movement speed% and attack damage which activating doubled. the armor pen is meant to deal with tanks not adcs or squishys and its exclusively to his barrels which every ranged characters AA easily kills before gp can fire a q at unless a adc walks into a ambush gp set up with hidden barrels in the fog of war in every other case its your teams fault he managed to set up barrels and use em, this is what we call risk reward if gps smart and good yeah your gonna get blown up if your even ranged you can kill his barrel before he can blow em up

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