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Zed is broken af

M Schumacher··45 votes·15,028 views

Zed is the most broken champion in the game right now, and dominates immobile and mobile mages alike. Immobile mages literally have 0 chance of winning lane vs him.

Zed facts:

Pros: -Manaless infinite wave clear starting at level 4 -Highest mobility mid laner in the game -Nearly impossible to gank at any point in the game -Impossible to split push against -Can 100-0 any champion in the game starting at level 6 with no counterplay. -Forces his lane opponent to rush the extremely nerfed Zhonyas! -Autowins lane by facerolling

Cons: -Can be banned

How long are you going to wait to buff immobile mages and nerf zed riot??

80 Comments

Science Fiction11 votes

As someone who loves zed. Yes, he is a bit much currently. The early damage and nonmana issues are the main issue. item 3140 item 3157 are classic responses...but a half decent zed would of zoned you out of cs and picked up a kill(s) therefore rendering you useless. If it takes you forever to get that zhonyas chances are you've lost.

Kukiel1 votes

As far as I know, Riot doesn't like the mindset of "I have to buy this item to counter X champion". I remember Executioner's Calling felt in this very same situation last season. My opinion on this matter is that it's unfair that Zed can just stack damage and be successful while most if not all of his match-ups are forced to rush a defensive item, slowing down their damage curve through the game.

Calabok8 votes

nerf him or give us counterplay against his ult ...

revert the last buff.

ZEeEeD3 votes

zhonyas if you dont wanna be bursted

KlydeFrog1 votes

Lol zilean counters him so yah

rtbf2206564311 votes

if one champ can stop him that means that zed is even more broken and it means that zilean is also bs witch well yea i cant say that it is a lie

Troiann7 votes

Today a Zed ulted me at my tower when i had 20 HP and he killed me AND got away. Like WTF?

Absolute monstrosity. Must be nerfed.

Fowus2 votes

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Today a Zed ulted me at my tower when i had 20 HP and he killed me AND got away. Like WTF?

Absolute monstrosity. Must be nerfed.

I am not defending zed but towers are shit and you had 20hp

Troiann3 votes

No man, it's obvious this champion is broken.

NO OTHER CHAMPION CAN DO THAT. And when I say NO OTHER CHAMPION, I mean NO OTHER CHAMPION. Only zed can towerdive post six. Literally only him. Deserves to be gutted.

/s

Zoecide1 votes

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No man, it's obvious this champion is broken.

NO OTHER CHAMPION CAN DO THAT. And when I say NO OTHER CHAMPION, I mean NO OTHER CHAMPION. Only zed can towerdive post six. Literally only him. Deserves to be gutted.

/s

tryndamere would like a word with you...

THIS GAME C4NC3R1 votes

You really don't understand sarcasm do you...? lmao

Maxshowtime112 votes

Dude you should it's zed so why were you still camping under tower with 20 hp, litterally most mid lane champs can do that such as fizz who could just E then Q on a minion out these guys are called assassin's for a reason because they can get a cheeky kill then escape with ease. Just get gud scrub

THIS GAME C4NC3R1 votes

Mate.. I notice you also really don't understand sarcasm.. do you...?

Stylish Haze1 votes

every other champ could have killed u, f.e. ziggs, veigar, le blanc, yasuo, they all just needed flash auto - or ignite and u is dead

3L11 votes

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No man, it's obvious this champion is broken.

NO OTHER CHAMPION CAN DO THAT. And when I say NO OTHER CHAMPION, I mean NO OTHER CHAMPION. Only zed can towerdive post six. Literally only him. Deserves to be gutted.

/s

This is an old thread but any tank would like to say hello. Kayle and Bard too.

Predated013 votes

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I am not defending zed but towers are shit and you had 20hp

When you fall for the obvious troll

THIS GAME C4NC3R1 votes

You really don't understand sarcasm do you...? facepalm

manolis2011 votes

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Today a Zed ulted me at my tower when i had 20 HP and he killed me AND got away. Like WTF?

Absolute monstrosity. Must be nerfed.

20 hp? BRUH

THIS GAME C4NC3R1 votes

You really don't understand sarcasm do you...?

iHerring4 votes

Well of course he sounds bad when you forget all his counterplay. Just pink ward him and rush QSS, noooooob.

RPK9KM4K4A3 votes

Yeah Zed is just going to farm you starting from very beginning until you buy qss/zhonya.

After that he continues you farm you because free compounding AD making Q E and autoes hitting like a truck.

Chrome Raven3 votes

item 3140 item 3157

Vekkna1 votes

What champ does that not apply to?

insaiyanbacca1 votes

Bard sure you can qss his q but that's it and it won't rly help you late game as it has like a 3 second cd, and his ult can be zhonyas'd but you get pretty much the same effect so its pointless.

Vekkna1 votes

A pure support with virtually no kill potential. This is helping my case.

The point is that Zed has no unique counterplay. Zhonya's doesn't counter him harder than it counters a majority of champs, like Akali Brand Cassiopeia Fizz Garen Leblanc Morgana Velkoz Zyra

insaiyanbacca1 votes

so im assuming you haven't seen a guinsoo's bard before?

Vekkna1 votes

No, and I don't think many people have.

Caytheles2 votes

I thought so too, then i started playing him, he is not an easy champ. High damage ofcourse, but one thing i noiced is that the enemy always forgets the Shadow, which means free harrass.

All in all a good and fun champion. but gets countered hard by friggin Annie and Fizz.

Also leblanc is the most mobile, and also if you faceroll you will end up going to your shadow and killing yourself... Try not to be so predictable.

Take a friend with you that has CC and shit on him.

Crossette3 votes

Everyone gets countered by Fizz.

Masala Chai2 votes

Try Diana, Fizz cannot jump on you or he will lose a ton of HP thanks to your W, and Moonlight debuff stays on longer than E's invulnerability, so you can easily Lunar Rush him twice once it's over. Diana actually works pretty well vs Zed because of the shield and the passive, and burst.

Crossette1 votes

On to my next point, people THINK everyone gets countered by Diana.

She's super strong ofc

Masala Chai1 votes

Her actual counters aren't popular anymore. Mordekaiser mid will only be played by Malicious Metal. No one plays Swain. Ryze is rather rare too. Heimerdinger mains are endangered species lmao

Crossette1 votes

I see a few Ryzes, but even they fall to Diana lol.

They're both burst GODS.

360D3GR3SS2 votes

Play zed then. See how much success you get if it is soooo easy. He is strong sure, but there is a large array of counterplay (hard counterplay). Several people who can easily beat him are Fiora ,Jax, Chogath, Irelia ,Ahri (soraka can also silence him and heal the ally he is targeting). Or any support who is somewhat knowledgeable about zed's abilities and can land cc accordingly. My suggested change would be to lower the speed of his W again but keep the range.

Vekkna3 votes

What you basically just said is that mid laners are almost all unviable against Zed, who single-handedly turns mid into a second top lane.

Which is interesting considering how many mid laners have been nerfed out of top lane for doing the exact same thing. Yet here's Zed doing it to mid, staying totally off Riot's radar.

KlydeFrog2 votes

Yawn zilean counters him

PicoDelGallo2 votes

I agree that zed is broken. They haven't / I doubt they'll do anything about it though. There's a reason he is banned in literally every match in ranked, and the second he isn't someone auto picks him. He is a champ that takes little work to rise through the games. Why ? He is a melee champ. Melees are suppose to get up close and personal to do their crazy damage but they gotta put themselves in a little danger to do it. Zed doesn't have that problem. Not only do all of his attacks hit at a range, and do aoe dmg, he has a shadow that can increase his poke range and leave him completely out of danger. No way of reaching him. He pokes, he pokes and just comes in for last hits and can shadow out when he wants. His whole kit is ranged and the only time he goes into danger is to ult someone, which doesn't really put him in danger because you can't target him while in ult for a couple of seconds but he can hurt you, then he does a combo and shadows back out... so how on earth is he a balanced melee carry when none of his kit put him in melee range, and it allows him more mobility than most champs ? Of course you can stun him, you can stun anyone. One stun won't do it. You can cc lock him with a whole team! ... well that sucks because when everyone focuses him and he can escape so easily your whole team just wasted all their cc on one guy and is left open to the rest of their team.

He's kit can do too much is the issue. He's in no danger for being a melee champ. He's more like a freaking mage with more mobility and can still destroy with white hits.

Ghxztt1 votes

Despite his high damage, he is easily countered by Zhonyas and QSS.

SnugglePuggle943 votes

Which Zhonya's armor stats have been nerfed and costs increase....so by the time he's 6 he already has a hexdrinker while you don't have enough farm to even get a Seeker's because he outpushed you and outfarmed...then by the time you do get Zhonya's you sacrificed your first item slot for defensive power instead of mana regen and ability power, and can't do shit against him because if you try to go in on him he can just shadow away.

"Easily countered?"

I think not.

Nerf, plz Rito

LoLTails1 votes

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Which Zhonya's armor stats have been nerfed and costs increase....so by the time he's 6 he already has a hexdrinker while you don't have enough farm to even get a Seeker's because he outpushed you and outfarmed...then by the time you do get Zhonya's you sacrificed your first item slot for defensive power instead of mana regen and ability power, and can't do shit against him because if you try to go in on him he can just shadow away.

"Easily countered?"

I think not.

Nerf, plz Rito

LoLTails1 votes

I agree totally

Stylish Haze2 votes

and the other way around? if they nerf zed and buff mages, as zed u need to buy hexdrinker first while mages can just go full dmg, so it would b the same. its always diffrent. meta changes.. deal with it or leav it

WalkingInACircle1 votes

He is not. It is Zed's harass, and not his ultimate, that is problematic about him right now. The shadow speed/range buff let him zone too effectively in lane.

Vekkna1 votes

Plus that 1100 range Q and its preposterous damage, pierce, multi-angle, and pierce. The W > Q is just way too strong too early.

CyberbullyMarc 1 votes

its just give him one item and the game is over dont matter how good you are or what level 1 item and your game is over cause zed is to op a nerf to zed or lethality would be nice

Shad0wbird1 votes

yea zed is so strong rn, against immobile champs like Lux he a nightmare. i played a game as lux and he zoned me out of cs, coundnt buy item 3157 for a while, i had like no cs and he would constantly poke me to more than half my health with just one combo, no ult. he literallly killed me under tower and took no damage. i just cant....

Stylish Haze1 votes

then u are real bad, i mained zed for a while, every lux matchup is cringe af, cause those hitboxes are fucked up. lux stun is insane, and her ult as well

3L11 votes

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then u are real bad, i mained zed for a while, every lux matchup is cringe af, cause those hitboxes are fucked up. lux stun is insane, and her ult as well

1st of all, you out-sustain her since you’re mama less and get a goddamn corrupting potion to heal her poke. Hide behind a lot of minions if you want to avoid her root (it’s not a stun). You can literally either bait her ultimate by countering with yours or just get out using your W. Lux is hella mana hungry, and you can abuse your op harass (W+E+Q) whenever she tries to walk up and farm/harass you. Zed counters any character that relies on skill shots as long as you have the reaction time to dodge with your r%%%%%ed point and click invulnerability or your shadow clones.

UltimateGamer9571 votes

you say he has the highest mobility mid lane but your forgetting yassuo and also his counter play is: buy zonhyas

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