So it has come to this, a pretty good Udyr in my team cannot outrun a Riven that keeps animation taunting, animation canceling and just Q'ing away like a little dick. It gets better, he could even get away from leona and udyr together. Who should be able to chainstun pretty easily right?
dominusx2 voteshe can get away cause he can jump walls and on top of that if udyr could easily catch up to a max cdr rive we would have a problem.
Hethalean1 votesThey're both big problems I think. If Riven can outrun the premier "out run you!" juggernaut, then that's also something of a problem especially given Riven's kit when ahead. :P
Asayake 5150glow1 votesThey're both big problems I think. If Riven can outrun the premier "out run you!" juggernaut, then that's also something of a problem especially given Riven's kit when ahead. :P
Your emphasis is in the wrong place - it should go on juggernaut, the class most vulnerable to kiting.
DoktorKaiser1 votesShe really needs those proposed nerfs, the best ones for Riven I have heard btw, where her cooldowns are doubled but reduce by 50% if she uses them towards enemy champions. This way she is just cancer as usual...
Asayake 5150glow1 votesShe really needs those proposed nerfs, the best ones for Riven I have heard btw, where her cooldowns are doubled but reduce by 50% if she uses them towards enemy champions. This way she is just cancer as usual...
I really don't like those changes, because it would kill Riven's ability to deal with most juggernauts. Riven's a very well rounded champion, and that change would severely hurt her splitting, and taking away that aspect of her kit is not gonna go over well with the Riven's who would rather splitpush than teamfight.
Admittedly, Riven can do both rather well (providing a good Riven, decent team comp with engage), which isn't inherently a huge problem, but kinda is due to her being a generalist pick like Graves or Maokai.
My suggestion is to increase her Q cooldown by 4-5 seconds, and reduce it's cooldown by 1 second for every passive empowered auto attack against champions. This makes it a lot more effective to kite out her Q's, as you'll get more time to kill her before her Q comes up again (her main damage). This doesn't affect her assassination or dueling, but for example if you go in with a third Q, that Q CD is gonna be huge and you won't be able to follow up at all beyond the first auto+R.
If Riven got 5 autos off on you without fast combo'ing, then you're probably already dead. Unless it's a Titanic Riven. Or unless you're a tank.
Gregor Gysi1 votesYeah I got some great proposals too
Brain Errör 4041 votesIdk... it all depends on items. Did Udyr max E second? Was this when they were both lvl 18? Because Udyr's speed boost comes from his E. If he isn't maxing E, he isn't getting his full speed and most udyr's max E 3rd.
