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Wild Geese··3 votes·999 views
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His Q is too overpowered early so you reduced its power at rank 5.

...By 20 damage.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

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Critmaster Garen4 votes

also, of course that nerf didnt matter for low mmr even if it was targeted at them.

Yorick winrate is still extremely high at low mmr aswell.

because these people are shit at the game. if they dont know how to play against the champion a numbers nerf to his abilities wont make a difference, theyre still shit at the game and dont know how to play against him. what did you expect?

thats why you dont even try to balance the game around these idiots, but have them figure it out for themseleves or stay stuck at the mmr theyre currently at.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

its a pretty significant nerf. q max is meta on garen, so it does impact his already weak early game. his winrate at diamond dropped from 50% to almost 40% because of it.

meddler already talked about possible compensation buffs to garen and yorick, if their performance at high mmr is impacted too much.

i hope he follows through by making maxing his e worthwile again at least against certain matchups like fiora, jax, shen etc who can negate the q damage with some abilities.

pushing frontloaded damage from his q into sustained damage from his e seems like a fair trade. no idea why he didnt do that from the start.

Wild Geese1 votes

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its a pretty significant nerf. q max is meta on garen, so it does impact his already weak early game. his winrate at diamond dropped from 50% to almost 40% because of it.

meddler already talked about possible compensation buffs to garen and yorick, if their performance at high mmr is impacted too much.

i hope he follows through by making maxing his e worthwile again at least against certain matchups like fiora, jax, shen etc who can negate the q damage with some abilities.

pushing frontloaded damage from his q into sustained damage from his e seems like a fair trade. no idea why he didnt do that from the start.

*2% as in 54% to 52%, but Meddler stated the change was for low elo --where the nerf made no difference at all.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=joMFkd54,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-29T23:44:04.639+0000)

*2% as in 54% to 52%

only if you take games from the past 7 days into account and average them into the current patch data. then yes, the drop off wont seem that significant.

and i dont know where you take that 54% from, because garens winrate at diamond+ was at almost exactly 50% for the past weeks before this patch.

the jump to higher winrates only came with taking plat and especially lower divisions into account that dont matter anymore.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/diamond/plus/champion/Garen/

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