Because it sure as fuck was not because he was dominating anything remotely above plat.
Honestly dissapointed, but what else should I expect? Meanwhile the REAL OP champs in low elo elo like Master Yi are being left untouched or even buffed.
Krynnˉ2 votesGaren has a 52% WR and a 9% pick rate in NA Diamond and a 55% WR and 10% pick rate in Diamond on both European servers, so I don't believe he is a "pub stomper". I do think he needed nerfs, hut not to his damage, imo the root of the problem is his 60% damage reduction on his W for one second and 30% for a few seconds after.
Killer of Night91 votesGaren has a 52% WR and a 9% pick rate in NA Diamond and a 55% WR and 10% pick rate in Diamond on both European servers, so I don't believe he is a "pub stomper". I do think he needed nerfs, hut not to his damage, imo the root of the problem is his 60% damage reduction on his W for one second and 30% for a few seconds after.
His W is literally the thing that make his late game 'not that bad' I would rather nerf his Q ad ratio on early lv since it's early/mid game the real issue
Vlada Cut1 votesGaren has a 52% WR and a 9% pick rate in NA Diamond and a 55% WR and 10% pick rate in Diamond on both European servers, so I don't believe he is a "pub stomper". I do think he needed nerfs, hut not to his damage, imo the root of the problem is his 60% damage reduction on his W for one second and 30% for a few seconds after.
Instead of nerfing Q damage they could've nerfed silence duration on max leveled Q and give the silence a different animation.
True Garen4 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jdqswNHr,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-08-29T14:47:29.303+0000)
Instead of nerfing Q damage they could've nerfed silence duration on max leveled Q and give the silence a different animation.
Garen Q Silence duration does not increase. And it is already the shortest Silence in the game.
Critmaster Garen2 votesGaren has a 52% WR and a 9% pick rate in NA Diamond and a 55% WR and 10% pick rate in Diamond on both European servers, so I don't believe he is a "pub stomper". I do think he needed nerfs, hut not to his damage, imo the root of the problem is his 60% damage reduction on his W for one second and 30% for a few seconds after.
on one hand you people complain that garen doesnt have much mechanical depth (even though he has strategic depth in build diversity that most people dont realize or give him credit for).
on the other hand you complain about the largest hook for skill expression in his kit.
make up your goddamn mind.
the parry on his w is a healthy mechanic and neccessary to give garen players an outplay tool. its on fucking 24 second long cooldown, so if you knew how to play around cooldown windows, you probably wouldnt even have half as much of an issue with it.
Krynnˉ1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jdqswNHr,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-08-29T18:35:07.395+0000)
on one hand you people complain that garen doesnt have much mechanical depth (even though he has strategic depth in build diversity that most people dont realize or give him credit for).
on the other hand you complain about the largest hook for skill expression in his kit.
make up your goddamn mind.
the parry on his w is a healthy mechanic and neccessary to give garen players an outplay tool. its on fucking 24 second long cooldown, so if you knew how to play around cooldown windows, you probably wouldnt even have half as much of an issue with it.
Garen having a 55% WR in diamond with an 10% pickrate means it's not just his onetricks and that is way too high of a winrate for a champion that easy in an elo that high.
I don't have an issue that he doesn't have mechanical depth, he shouldn't have mechanical depth, lol needs easy champions for newer players to be able to play the game with-out having Azir level mechanics.
Critmaster Garen2 votesGaren having a 55% WR in diamond with an 10% pickrate means it's not just his onetricks and that is way too high of a winrate for a champion that easy in an elo that high.
his winrate in diamond over the past few weeks was exactly 50% almost the entire time through. it was only plat and below where it was significantly higher. to a point im asking myself how much of that winrate was a result of people running a ton of smurphs at that mmr.
with this patch it drastically dropped below 50%.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/diamond/plus/champion/Garen/
i dont understand why people make up shit.
and learn the difference between skill floor and skill cap. its not fair to pidgeonhole any champion into being a garbage pick because you want him out of your games, to be used as a tutorial champion.
it is possible to design champions to have a low skill floor to be picked up by new players, and high enough mastery to improve on the champion and play him into higher mmr.
his w accomplishes exactly that. on the surface its a simple defense steroid. with enough game knowledge and timing, it becomes an outplay tool.
is practically the tutorial champion for junglers. but he has enough depth to have some mastery to be played into the highest divisions in solo que.
CHEWYARMS2 votesRip yorick
FOR JUSTICE1 votesneither was yorick, but theyre nerfing him too.
besides, im sure to some extent we can agree yi jungle requires more brainpower then garen top.
on a side note, at least it displays they do occasionally balance around lower levels of play
