This should not be allowed from Caitlyn.

LegitBacon66·Nov 17, 2016·25 votes·3,148 views

Why?

48 Comments

Just Blame JennyNov 17, 201614 votes

That is indeed pretty dumb. The trap should be outlined when behind a structure.

SohleksNov 17, 20168 votes

I've once seen Caitlyn completely obscure her trap under a fallen Nunu and actually snagged somebody

Kirius DarkNov 17, 20165 votes

Already discussed and suggested that traps should get the azir soldier treatment that will rapidly decay by an enemy turret.

So stupid that she can lay down an entire trapline at the turret to the other team cant even defend it

TurquoiseYoshiNov 17, 20164 votes

It's more the fact that the trap was not able to be seen by the enemy team due to the placement of the turret and the area it visually blocks. The problem wouldn't be fixed by making the trap decay faster under turret unless it was nearly instant (which kinda negates the use of Cait as a siege ADC).

Kirius DarkNov 17, 20162 votes

Totally agree about the vision thing and being hidden, but she can still siege by using traps to block off lane side entrances or to make it harder to dive her.

Having a row of traps right at the turret or just behind it so the defending team cant even get to the turret without stepping on traps is an issue. Just have the fast decay when it's in turret range. Traps outside that range will still have good effect from deterring the enemy from diving her

xBushxNov 17, 20162 votes

I do this all the time in ARAM...so funny and oppressive.

RivuoNov 17, 20162 votes

Then jinx ults you 4 people for 600+ damage.

Then jinx has 2.5 attack speed mid game with bloodthirster making her impossible to kill unless she gets rengar bursted and even then if she flashes away or has the slighest peel she will live and kill him

Then jinxs autos do 110% AOE full splash damage and aces your team because resets

But no. We're mad because she stepped in a trap ( which was obviously put behind her tower ya know )

...?

Over InnsmouthNov 17, 20168 votes

So both of them are busted, duh.

RivuoNov 17, 20164 votes

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So both of them are busted, duh.

If i was supporting that jinx i would have left lane.

There was absolutely no reason for you to step in that trap.

WimbledofyNov 17, 201613 votes

don't think she ever even saw the trap.

PROJECT KatarìnaNov 18, 20161 votes

Typical EUW player toxic over the slightest thing

WimbledofyNov 18, 20162 votes

he's na not euw

PROJECT KatarìnaNov 18, 20161 votes

hmmm I should go see a doctor then or stop staying up 24 hours straight

Bloodhawk95Nov 18, 20163 votes

the trap was not in sight because of how the camera works....

AninLegions777Nov 18, 20162 votes

Lool. I love how you think Cait (who has the highest base attack range) will let Jinx cs enough to get strong in mid game. "Oh Jinx will just farm with rockets then." Well tough luck son, they consume mana. Cait is cancer bot lane tbh. She probably has the easiest orbwalk besides Kalista (for obvious reasons) and her range makes it feel like she has Firecannon or something. It's just too fcking high. Then combine that with a Janna supp and get a shield that gives you 20 AD early game. Lool. gee fudging gee.

ShaolinToiletNov 18, 20161 votes

Yes lool I say lool

GuardAbuseNov 18, 20161 votes

I won't deny it. I'm a disgusting Janna player and my duo primarily plays Cait cause that lane is broken.

AninLegions777Nov 18, 20161 votes

Eww, A Janna player :& On a serious note tho, that's one of the reasons I don't go ADC. If I do, I ban Cait or Janna. So frustrating cos you can't trade.

RivuoNov 18, 20161 votes

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Lool. I love how you think Cait (who has the highest base attack range) will let Jinx cs enough to get strong in mid game. "Oh Jinx will just farm with rockets then." Well tough luck son, they consume mana.

Jinx minigun at level 1 has 525 range. Lucian has 500 range. Sivir has 500. And to be quite clear, lucian and sivir arent spamming their fucking skills to get CS. They cs with their autos just like a normal adc in LANE.

Cait is cancer bot lane tbh. She probably has the easiest orbwalk besides Kalista (for obvious reasons) and her range makes it feel like she has Firecannon or something. It's just too fcking high.

Ok well Jinx gets the same range + splash damage so............. obivously feels like jinx has a rapid firecannon too :x???

Then combine that with a Janna supp and get a shield that gives you 20 AD early game. Lool. gee fudging gee.

Or you can just get good and pick a caitlyn counter.. Caitlyn is weak against nami/sona/Soraka/bard.

If you're going to post skewed facts then you should atleast do it from a not level 19 account so we can have some credentials on who you are.

AninLegions777Nov 19, 20161 votes

Dude you are confusing yourself. Look here: http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend . Cait has a higher Winrate, Playrate AND Banrate. You're obviously talking from low elo perspective so I don't expect you to relate to the strength of Cait and therefore you can't come at my smurf account. Get some knowledge of the game. Now, scurry away.

RivuoNov 19, 20161 votes

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Dude you are confusing yourself. Look here: http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend . Cait has a higher Winrate, Playrate AND Banrate. You're obviously talking from low elo perspective so I don't expect you to relate to the strength of Cait and therefore you can't come at my smurf account. Get some knowledge of the game. Now, scurry away.

Got 900k pts on caitlyn.

Got 300k on Jinx

Got 300k on MF

Got 250k on Ashe

100k on every other adc except draven and corki.

I hit diamond promos a few weeks ago but failed.

I'm 100% confident when i say that past Plat 5, The adcs actually know how to fight back. A good jinx uses her Q rockets to poke cait back, You dont run out of mana unless you're an idiot.

With warlords, Jinx can easily sustain through lane..

AninLegions777Nov 19, 20161 votes

Good luck poking when she has 5 traps in front of you. A good Cait won't give Jinx the opportunity to poke. And if you are so confident, explain the data you saw on Champion.gg. Cos it seems to me that you are seeing something I'm not on the site. There's a reason people chose Cait. She's safe. Too fcking safe. Oh and btw, Cait has 650 range and Jinx has 700 range with fishbone when it's max level. Meaning for the first 7 levels, it's almost impossible to poke back and you forgot the fact that the rockets have lower AS. So many reasons why Jinx will find it as a hard lane.

RivuoNov 19, 20161 votes

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Good luck poking when she has 5 traps in front of you. A good Cait won't give Jinx the opportunity to poke. And if you are so confident, explain the data you saw on Champion.gg. Cos it seems to me that you are seeing something I'm not on the site. There's a reason people chose Cait. She's safe. Too fcking safe. Oh and btw, Cait has 650 range and Jinx has 700 range with fishbone when it's max level. Meaning for the first 7 levels, it's almost impossible to poke back and you forgot the fact that the rockets have lower AS. So many reasons why Jinx will find it as a hard lane.

Oh the Caitlyn has 5 traps in front of you? That means shes maxing W

In other words, her Q does no damage. Thats not an opinion thats a fact, thats like Lucians Q at level 1 when it should be 5.

So in other words if you hard engage she literally has no damage except her autos

... Thats her weakness.

AninLegions777Nov 20, 20161 votes

My gosh. Okay let me explain. 5 traps with each having the potential to allow Cait deal 190(+70% AD) vs. One Q (which is a skillshot and can easily be dodged since it has a slow animation), has the potential of dealing 190 (+170% AD) and the dmg which falls off if it passes multiple targets. It's a no-brainer. It also depends of preference. Vs a mobile ADC, max W. On immobile, max Q.

RivuoNov 20, 20161 votes

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My gosh. Okay let me explain. 5 traps with each having the potential to allow Cait deal 190(+70% AD) vs. One Q (which is a skillshot and can easily be dodged since it has a slow animation), has the potential of dealing 190 (+170% AD) and the dmg which falls off if it passes multiple targets. It's a no-brainer. It also depends of preference. Vs a mobile ADC, max W. On immobile, max Q.

I have 1300 games in the bot lane and i have no trouble NOT stepping into caitlyn traps....

if shes maxing W then shes extremely weak in 1v1

If shes maxing Q then all you have to do is wait for her Q to be used on minions or dodge the net to go in...

AninLegions777Nov 20, 20161 votes

The funny thing is, you speak like you haven't played against a good Cait. I play Diamond+ ADCs daily. Both in ranked and tournaments. Against a good Cait, you have 2 options. Engage and get caught in the traps or don't engage and get poked. The only good thing is that she tends to push lane so ganking her is relatively easy. And what kind of cait wants a 1v1 early game? Pfft. Very bad scenario. And if she uses her E, she'll just farm with her long attack range and use her W to prevent you from coming close. Still haven't seen a scenario where you win a Cait in lane if she's good with the champ.

RivuoNov 21, 20161 votes

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The funny thing is, you speak like you haven't played against a good Cait. I play Diamond+ ADCs daily. Both in ranked and tournaments.

You are speaking to a 870k Caitlyn main that played in diamond before the season just ended.

Against a good Cait, you have 2 options. Engage and get caught in the traps

How? How does you engaging = getting caught in the traps. That makes close to zero sense..or

don't engage and get poked. The only good thing is that she tends to push lane so ganking her is relatively easy

Yep. Because she wants to poke and she cant poke if theres too many minions

. And what kind of cait wants a 1v1 early game?

You're playing in a 2v2 lane. Fights can be easily forced ( Think thresh hook nami bubble blitz flash knockup or hook, bard ult, bard Q, Morgana Q, Jungler presence.

And when i said ''Cait loses the 1v1'' i mean she literally loses any trade if she doesnt land her net.

Thats why i said if you max W (like i do ) your Q does negligible damage and if you max Q then you cant use your traps efficiently because the charge is low and cd high.

If you dodge caits net you instant win the trade.

Pfft. Very bad scenario. And if she uses her E, she'll just farm with her long attack range and use her W to prevent you from coming close. Still haven't seen a scenario where you win a Cait in lane if she's good with the champ.

Err.. i have... Considering if you are past gold you would know that the support is the one that wins you the lane................................ Not the adc...

ArakadiaNov 18, 20161 votes

aces your team because resets

Resets? She doesn't have resets?

RivuoNov 18, 20161 votes

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Resets? She doesn't have resets?

Her passive resets on kills.

AinTheBrainNov 18, 20161 votes

I think you are thinking of Katarina.

RivuoNov 18, 20161 votes

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I think you are thinking of Katarina.

''INNATE: Jinx gains 175% bonus movement speed, which decays over 6 seconds, whenever an enemy champion or structure dies within 3 seconds of being damaged by her. Additionally, she gains 15% total attack speed for the same duration, stacking indefinitely.''

When you proc the passive again, it resets the timer and stacks..........

ArakadiaNov 19, 20161 votes

Her passive is a stacking buff. You say resets like her cooldowns are reset.

RivuoNov 19, 20161 votes

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Her passive is a stacking buff. You say resets like her cooldowns are reset.

Im not sure how dumb we have to be to not realize what ''Aces your team because resets'' means in terms of jinx

:x not tryin to be rude

LordGeovanniNov 18, 20161 votes

Why do people think pointing out another busted thing makes the first busted thing okay

DivewingNov 17, 20162 votes

This works on every tower I'm pretty sure. Had to deal with this and let me tell you, fucking around with the camera to see it is really annoying. You can also do a similar thing with a ward in the baron pit, and it's incredibly difficult to attack the ward instead of baron, and if they hit baron over the wall you basically have to leave.

YeskaNov 17, 20161 votes

Why not ?

CrisbyjuNov 18, 20161 votes

I mean it's called trap for a reason right...?

ValeckseraiNov 18, 20161 votes

Oh... that's dirty.

Papa SlothyNov 18, 20161 votes

cait traps under tower should not be allowed

Rockm SockmNov 18, 20161 votes

I don't get why they heavily nerfed jinx traps and Caits barely have an arm time.

DemonicousNov 18, 20161 votes

Because you cant resist the allure of a cupcake?

EROTIC RAID BOSSNov 19, 20161 votes

because Caitlin's traps are her defining niche

KeevurNov 18, 20161 votes

I'd rather Cait not be able to block off entire lanes with her traps or zoning you from your tower because it's covered in traps as well. It gets pretty ridiculous

AxestsNov 18, 20161 votes

It seems like a very out of the way problem, it should be fairly easy to tell when caitlyn places this trap. The problem is the lack of clarity, if someone doesn't see it placed then there's no way to know it's there. At the same time why the hell would you hug your towers butt so hard that you step in that trap. Probably needs to be fixed but i doubt that it will be fixed any time soon.

DemonicousNov 18, 20161 votes

Ban this player along with the Support Singed guy. Stuff them in an oil drum and roll them off a big hill.

The DeckownerNov 18, 20161 votes

this works on every tower in every side, due to the stupid camera angel, the trap is basically invisible.

Another stupid thing is Caitlyn can put a trap under someone's dead body, and as long as the dead body is someone with a decent size(Bard, Nunu, Gragas, etc basically all non adc or mage characters) the trap is invisible.

WhaiiSoSeriousNov 18, 20161 votes

Cait's traps are really fucking stupid. I mean she can build a fucking wall to block any engages and free farm all day.

Unless someone wants to just walk over one and take a spike from her auto.

CavemanteroNov 19, 20161 votes

I do it all the time in Aram. Is it exploitive? Well yeah, but any trapper can do that. Hell, at least Caitly has to hide it behind a tower or in grass rather than them be invisible ( Teemo ). There are more pressing things that are actually broken you can whine about. The 'solution' if this were actually a problem would be to reduce the opacity of the tower to see traps behind it.