Watching Dyrus's stream, the amount of open mids is retarded

LegitBacon66··202 votes·8,411 views

Every 4th or 5th game one team or the other is calling open mid at 10-15 minutes because first blood tower and a 6-7 kill lead. This is bad. Really alarming for league. Especially in high elo games. I even watched the korean LCS matches and they were stomps at 25 minutes and the other had nothing to do but just sit and let the game end.

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Zero Skill Tank77 votes

I don't like to be "the salty noob who blames the jungler" - even if I often am the salty noob who blames the jungler - but current meta is so jungle-centric, that if enemy jungler is noticeably better performing you can open at 10 or earlier.

h5LYF41Lam38 votes

theres not even a need for the ganks to be "succesfull",just go bot burn some summoners and force the enemy bot to back and boom turret first blood and a 30 cs lead for your bot,boom 2k gold lead.

Venomar32 votes

Burning sums and forcing bot out of lane is a successful gank as far as I'm concerned.

Verxint15 votes

Red buff feels too strong IMO. "Ganks" nowadays are just the guy autoattacking me as I try to run to tower, and even if they don't kill me they can just camp the bush and red buff is so dangerous if I'm anything less than full HP I just have to give up the lane.

GayFluffyUnicorn10 votes

Finally someone complaining about red buff. But it is not red buff alone, there are way too many slows in the game imo. I don't know any other moba being so overloaded with slows.

EmollientNut059 votes

The surrender vote should be at 10 minutes. Riot's been enforcing shorter and shorter matches regardless of what the community wants, and no one wants to feel stuck in a helpless match

jinxedchef22 votes

And it should 3 votes wins after 20 mins.

Snowman Arc2 votes

Seriously, there is always that one guy who doesn't have as bad a KDA as the rest of the team (5/6/1 compared to everyone else's 2/7/1) and thinks that we can win.

hunterspec35 votes

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The surrender vote should be at 10 minutes. Riot's been enforcing shorter and shorter matches regardless of what the community wants, and no one wants to feel stuck in a helpless match

no point, fucking asshole teammates never surrender no matter what.

Melledoneus13 votes

I mean, if you have an AFK and a fed enemy carry any sane person would surrender.

Sraeg201314 votes

"Sane" is the keyword.

hunterspec26 votes

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I mean, if you have an AFK and a fed enemy carry any sane person would surrender.

which they are not.

CountSpatula10 votes

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which they are not.

Say hello to inters/premade inters

My Waifu Vanilla10 votes

This is NA where people don't know how to give up. 10k gold behind at 16 minutes? That surrender vote isn't going through. Also, we live with the "NA open mid" where you never actually open mid and still sit mid all day and waveclear because you enjoy sitting in games for 10 minutes longer than necessary despite saying "open mid" in all chat.

Anidan9 votes

"End please. Won't defend."

proceeds to turtle as hard as humanly possible.

NiceTryVi2 votes

That pisses me off to no end. People being like "end pls" when they are dead, and then as soon as they come up they hit you as hard as possible. Like, if you want it to end, why are you fighting? Do they not understand the connection here?

MLDzXnRRR9 votes

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no point, fucking asshole teammates never surrender no matter what.

I guess you have never been stuck in a 90 minutes (or longer ) DOTA game. There is no surrender and you can see all kind of comebacks. I've seen too many times one of the teams to get wiped in Lol and they just get demoralized and surrender even when the game is far from over.

Ahristocats3 votes

part of the reason i don't play dota anymore is 90 min matches

but 10 min matches is also bullshit, right now i'm stuck between 2 bad games

Paquay5 votes

I just can't stand how there's those 2 people who keep saying "guys we have a chance" when it is like a 15k gold lead, 3 dragons and a baron with an uncontested elder coming up. Oh yeah and the turret count is 8 to 1.

Yeah, we've got a chance... as soon as I can get back into queue, lol.

Magia Erebea7 votes

A good idea would be to change the auto-vote for people who don't vote during a surrender attempt from auto-no to auto-yes.

GigaPube3 votes

oh god, please make surrendering at 10 minutes the next popular boards thread topic. we're off to a good start in 2017 with 10 bans. then again it wont matter if the scrubs on my team dont realize how lost the game is and how much the snowball meta is prevalent over any other "meta" they consider to exist

warpenguin55548 votes

Because games are decided at 10 minutes. 1 team runs around the map taking everything while the other team just watches the 1st team play league of legends

Wráthful33 votes

the game snowballs way too easy make an early 2 ganks on bot lane secure 2-3 kills get fb tower gold and the game is pretty much over...

Scruberz26 votes

High elo games are hard to come back from when you get significantly behind. The players understand that and are therefore more willing to get the games over with asap so they can move onto the next one.

GayFluffyUnicorn4 votes

Sure but the amount of opened games i see on quas stream and euw streamers is excessive imo.

EndlessSorcerer9 votes

Games tend to be decided rather early at the moment.

After one team has a decent lead (i.e. FB Tower, Dragon and a few kills), the remainder of the game is just a delaying action unless they throw extremely hard.

Bouncemaster Zac9 votes

I watch several streamers myself and not only this but literally every game Sneaky plays, there is a point where his jaw drops open and he goes silent because something killed him so unreasonably fast he may as well have been afk for 10 seconds beforehand. It's upsetting just to watch second-hand, let alone experience yourself.

hunterspec7 votes

damn dude I wish my team would do that, I really need to step my game up and get higher elo.

SweedishGunner7 votes

There's no point trying to play out games that are so one sided at 15 minutes.

You either drag it out to 30-40 (if you can even) for the 10% possibility of an ace and getting baron to turn the game or just open and move on to the next one, most people seem to choose the latter at high elo.

9 X7 votes

Or have a Ziggs on your team. Then in the mid-to-late game you can skip the Baron/Mountain Drakes and just blow everything up with one minion wave to win the match.

Noblewind5 votes

Because every single game is either a comfortable lead or playing on your heels from about minute 5 to 25. Sure, I wouldn't say every game is over at 10mins, like you can turn it around or throw from time to time but this fact remains and it's not fun to be in these games.

AdomasChu4 votes

Cool so league is dota now and dota is HOTS. Really makes me want to play again. (sarcasm)

Nickssaa4 votes

how is league Dota now? If anything, its further than its ever been from Dota.

AdomasChu9 votes

Because until the 7.00 patch dota was steamroll the game. Until you could actually push out you would just die. Its not even a matter of sit there and watch, its- the fact that the game is a drag race and unless your teams are constantly neck and neck it isn't fun because one is stomped and the other team is roaming and taking out all your towers at 12 minutes.

Blåbæret4 votes

It's not even the FBT anymore, it's the fact that once someone gets a couple of kills they snowball out of control and it's impossible to recover, FBT only reinfornces the issue. Damage is too high, snowball effect is too high.

Junkο2 votes

It's because it is Challenger elo. In Challenger you won't see those epic comebacks where enemy team makes a lot of mistakes that the losing team takes advantage off. They are Challenger for a reason.

GayFluffyUnicorn6 votes

Not true. Challengers do tons of mistakes themselves but not big enough to be worth trying to stall out the game for 20 min+.

SteelMankind2 votes

The amount of people callously using the R word is sickening.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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The amount of people callously using the R word is sickening.

T R I G G E R E D

This game isn't for 10 years olds.... older teenagers and adults realize that words are not "Offensive", what matters is the context and the intent of said words.

mikemcparty3 votes

10 year olds describe things as retarded. Adults use a more sophisticated vocabulary. Nice try though.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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10 year olds describe things as retarded.

You must be very young if you think that.

Adults use a more sophisticated vocabulary.

Ahahahaha, oh man. See the thing is my lexicon is far more ample than yours but it doesn't matter because your argument is rooted in failed elitism... your attempt to play it off is flimsy at best. Stay T R I G G E R E D, little snowflake.

mikemcparty1 votes

You need to take a break from the internet, little one. Not everything you say to people has to be negative or an attempt to "trigger" them. You act like you just learned a new word and don't quite know when it should be used. Give "triggered" a break. It sounds a lot more fresh when you don't use it in every board post you make.

I am impressed though. The extent of your vocabulary is so very impressive. It gets me aroused when I read how well you type. To be honest though, I doubt your knowledge of the English language is greater than mine. We'll never know though.

Love you babe <3

Dominick Destine1 votes

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You need to take a break from the internet, little one

Irony.

Not everything you say to people has to be negative

Is there an argument you wanted to present ? it does not seem to be so.

or an attempt to "trigger" them.

Is that so? are you implying that you are easily triggered or that I am very good at making people like you become triggered? either way I don't see how your argument is in any way good... at best you're shooting yourself in the foot.

You act like you just learned a new word and don't quite know when it should be used. Give "triggered" a break. It sounds a lot more fresh when you don't use it in every board post you make.

LOL.

This is one of the rare times I wish that one guy that desperately wants to one up me would appear and .... well, defend me from the above quoted. This is because he would (justifiably) have a better argument; "He doesn't say triggered , he says DRACONIAN in literally every post"

That would have been funny and appropriate/semi-accurate. Yours was funny but in a sad and inaccurate way.

I am impressed though. The extent of your vocabulary is so very impressive. It gets me aroused when I read how well you type.

I know right. My ample sized lexicon is irresistible to the opposite and even sometimes, the same sex.

I am just that awesome.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Ahem.

He doesn't say triggered in every post.

He says Draconian at least twice as often.

mikemcparty1 votes

That's draconian of you to correct me. Are you triggered?

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Pfft. I don't get triggered.

Heck in game I am 99% tilt proof.

mikemcparty1 votes

You're defending yourself. Seems like I triggered you

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

You're trying to break my defenses.

Clearly you are triggered that I'm not triggered.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Ahem.

He doesn't say triggered in every post.

He says Draconian at least twice as often.

You're late.... but it works.

And I still lol'd. Yes, I am that vain (I probably think this post is about me).

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Yes, it is.

Thou has summoned me through extremely vague means that I didn't get was referring to me until my second time reading. After I finished laughing.

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