A respectfull discusion about thormail.

Hello, I would like to have a discussion about this item -> .

As you may or may not know riot is thinking about changing the item so it applies grievious wounds to it and lowering(removing?) the return damage. I think this is a great change because now for it to be balanced the returndamage needs to be a bit over baring when the enemy doesnt have lifesteal and ignorable if he does. While with grievious wounds its damage/effect can be smoothed and as effective at most stages of the game. This however leaves lots to being discussed: How accessable/situational should the item be? What should be the item's goal? What should it bring apart from grievious wounds?

Another problem thormail struggle with in my opinion is that its basestats are only 100 armor and by the time you finish this item there is mostly already a BC and lastwisper in the game making it almost always an infirior item. I see 2 solutions:

1. (not my favorite) It becomes another 60 armor/300 hp item and be the item against botrk/noncrit builders. It could then even be build out of wardens mail and have the same unique passive as randuins so its not stackable and you only build the 2 in rare occasions when really needed. This option can have some side effects that have to be examined; for instance its impact on healers/selfhealers other than lifesteal as it becomes much more availible ingame.

2. (my personal way to go) The item becomes/remains THE 'you didnt think you could pick a full ad team into a tank and expect to win lategame?' item. Its still 100 armor but has an aditional 10%aa damage block. That way its still useless vs ap and a lategame item but is strong in what its suposed to do: dealing with aabased champs.

Which option do you guys think is the best? Or have you even other things in mind that are even better? Feel free to share them in a respectfull manner so riot can see what we think about this item and what it should do.