like W going to 2 seconds if she used it right before ulting
W not being put on CD if she's CC'd in the jump
Tentacles being able to regen health if you keep them alive long enough (or just having more)
Cant attack tentacles in a bush from outside of the bush (idk why this was added to begin with)
I know boards hates the second most easily counterplayed champion in the game but these are fair and minor changes
chutlu1 voteslike W going to 2 seconds if she used it right before ulting
just dont use it before ulting
W not being put on CD if she's CC'd in the jump
dont get cc'd, thats for most champions (
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Tentacles being able to regen health if you keep them alive long enough (or just having more)
its 2 hits, does it really matter?
Cant attack tentacles in a bush from outside of the bush (idk why this was added to begin with)
doesn't matter
second most easily counterplayed champion in the game
agreed
Big Lincoln1 votesdon't use my only tool for repositioning to get in a better position to land the put in the first place. genius
aatrox Q isn't his primary damage tool, Illaoi W is. interrupting it should impede her, not completely shut her down for the next 4 seconds
yes, there's a difference between getting 1 hit off and it healing it and hitting it once and then killing it for free later. rewards Illaoi for keeping them alive
does matter, now ranged champs can't clear them for free and have to go in the bush, which gives them situational risk for Illaoi to play against.
lightdragoon881 votesHow about some CC Tenacity when in ult mode?
chutlu1 votesRanged champions would take the tentacles anyways and bully Illaoi away, bush or no bush.
Also, there are a lot of champions that CC destroys WAY worse than interrupting a 4s cd.
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Honestly when Illaoi backs I just destroy them all anyways. I don't think it matters
Big Lincoln1 votesboth of those champs have more mobility and more reliable sustain than Illaoi and trynd can juke skillshots with his
and riot intends to keep them both in the gutter, people at least want Illaoi to be viable but atm she's countered by so much she basically depends on the enemy being bad to succeed
Taliyah Rocks1 votesI agree with the W cooldown being reduced when ulting. Sometimes you use it as a gapcloser right before ulting.
Quite frankly i'd be satisfied with her getting a new skin.
Also if they have lots of CC i'll try to be more passive and wait for them to engage before jumping in.
Big Lincoln1 votesno reason W shouldn't already work this way, kindred Q is reduced when she activates W after using it
waiting for CC down only matters for ults, everything else is spam able after 20 minutes these days
Taliyah Rocks1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jVGb8ykw,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-03-30T16:19:59.394+0000)
waiting for CC down only matters for ults, everything else is spam able after 20 minutes these days
True but if they engage on you, 5 second cooldown is enough to blow up an entire team with Illaoi.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jVGb8ykw,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T15:33:01.647+0000)
like W going to 2 seconds if she used it right before ulting
W not being put on CD if she's CC'd in the jump
Tentacles being able to regen health if you keep them alive long enough (or just having more)
Cant attack tentacles in a bush from outside of the bush (idk why this was added to begin with)
I know boards hates the second most easily counterplayed champion in the game but these are fair and minor changes
These are mostly pretty reasonable and good, except not being able to auto tentacles in a bush from outside of it (my Quinn's speaking). I don't think her tentacles should get more health tho, the reason she's got huge damage and AoE so reliably is because it can be dodged and because the tentacles can be killed easily. They're already invulnerable during her ult, and because of how hard it is for immobiles to dodge tentacles if they happen to be angled right means I don't like that. Regening health is fine though.
I think a lot of people are still scarred from when Illaoi was broken so they don't want her buffed.
Big Lincoln1 votesboards is biased against immobile melees being viable so im not surprised tbh
these are very reasonable buffs that are mostly QoL anyway
Babaduuk1 votesEh, I think Illaoi is in a really good spot if you build her properly. Like, sleeper OP good spot, even against ranged. Problem is, most people don't understand the value of aggressiveness when it comes to her. Smash waves, pull souls, crush duels, eat towers, profit.