New morde is the best designed champion riot has ever made

Soul Dealer·May 31, 2019·3 votes·1,406 views

His ult makes it almost impossible for your teammates to fuck you over. I want more champions like him where you can ult and take your team out the equation that way trolls have less influence over the game. Someone trolling? No problem! Step 1: pick morde Step 2: ult their carry Step 3: kill them because your morde the king of 1v1s Step 4; come back to the fight with more stats and 1v5

I cannot stress how good this feels to not have your team fuck you over. All hail new morde, riots best work yet.

15 Comments

Chembaron YamadaMay 31, 20194 votes

I think we have completely different definitions for "well designed".

This guy will probably break pro play and will be extremely annoying to deal with in SoloQ, too. Then they either have to make heavy kit adjustments or simply gut him.

ThingamajigMay 31, 20192 votes

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I think we have completely different definitions for "well designed".

This guy will probably break pro play and will be extremely annoying to deal with in SoloQ, too. Then they either have to make heavy kit adjustments or simply gut him.

whether he is picked in pro will be decided only on how durable he is

for soloq i doubt he will break it more than zoe/lb/yas/draven/yuumi have

Chembaron YamadaMay 31, 20191 votes

The fact alone that his ultimate is able to completely null the entire kit of champions like these: Heimerdinger Illaoi Yorick is already too much when it comes to player frustration.

Hard counters are one thing. But if an enemy champion is literally able to strip me from my own kit, that's a whole new level of bullshit for people playing these champions.

Only positive thing is that I will never have to deal with Mordekaiser, since I will permaban him the moment he goes live.

ThingamajigMay 31, 20191 votes

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The fact alone that his ultimate is able to completely null the entire kit of champions like these: is already too much when it comes to player frustration.

Hard counters are one thing. But if an enemy champion is literally able to strip me from my own kit, that's a whole new level of bullshit for people playing these champions.

Only positive thing is that I will never have to deal with Mordekaiser, since I will permaban him the moment he goes live.

why? we haven't had hard counters designed in such a long time

Chembaron YamadaMay 31, 20191 votes

we haven't had hard counters designed in such a long time

I don't get what you are trying to tell me with that. We didn't.... so what? Is that a bad thing?

All I am saying is that Mordekaiser is insanely unfair for certain types of champions and even for others he seems really annoying to deal with.

Good damage, sustains the whole time, has literally no ressources to manage whatsoever.... I will spare myself from this annoyance by making sure he stays out of all my games.

ThingamajigMay 31, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jVEnU9ug,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-31T11:50:28.285+0000)

I don't get what you are trying to tell me with that. We didn't.... so what? Is that a bad thing?

All I am saying is that Mordekaiser is insanely unfair for certain types of champions and even for others he seems really annoying to deal with.

Good damage, sustains the whole time, has literally no ressources to manage whatsoever.... I will spare myself from this annoyance by making sure he stays out of all my games.

yes it's a bad thing

KelgMay 31, 20192 votes

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why? we haven't had hard counters designed in such a long time

meanwhile Gangplank hard counters plenty of champs with his w including new morde's ult

ThingamajigMay 31, 20191 votes

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meanwhile hard counters plenty of champs with his w including new morde's ult

he is a hard counter for most tanks indeed but his rework release was really long ago

very few champions remain with hard counter mechanics

yis ult ornns terrain destruction yasuos wind wall braums shield not many to list

Moody PJun 1, 20191 votes

Illaoi can R to dodge the Death Realm entirely and the others can buy QSS

FSRERMay 31, 20191 votes

So far, on pbe mordekaiser is to simply put it, broken. His kit is supposed to make him high health ap juggernaut with little ap (protobelt,liandrys,rylais) on his main build. His scaling however should not be so high not on his q or e but on his passive damage. How can that be changed? Make his passive do less damage when many enemies are hit by it so that his 1v1 power is not reduced but he can not 1v1 in a wave of minions and just deal full dmg and because of the minions targeting him, shielding himself, making the 1v1 impossible (something like garen E).

MalignMetalMay 31, 20191 votes

From what i have played he will be close to balanced once released

ThingamajigMay 31, 20191 votes

pyke blue kayn ww rework swain rework sylas all pretty satisfying champions to play new morde will be up there for sure

Soul DealerMay 31, 20191 votes

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pyke blue kayn ww rework swain rework sylas all pretty satisfying champions to play new morde will be up there for sure

They are all pretty good but morde is the best simply because he takes your team out of the equation. Goodbye trolls. Hello my new main

Mid NidaleeMay 31, 20191 votes

Current Mordekaiser is very rewarding to learn, but most people have just played a couple of games and inted a bunch. From the outside he looks like a very easy champion but with time spent on him, he is amazing. I got my MMR to d4/d3 in a matter of 30 games on him so far this season.

I have played new Morde on PBE and have 3 complaints about his design.

Ultimate: Being able to take a jungle champion out of an objective fight for 7 seconds is kinda busted.

Ghosts: Ghosts being removed completely takes away from Mordekaiser's old identity. Riot has really failed us here.

W: This ability almost doesn't feel like an ability currently, the values are so weak. It feels like the W belongs on the passive and the passive belongs on the W.

Overall he feels like every other juggernaut/fighter in the game now, but with a niche ult, instead of the unique drain mage he was. Riot has been shoeing champions into a classification like juggernaut/marksman/enchanter and removing the uniqueness of their play style for quite some time now..

Overall, he looks cool; but pretty disappointed with the game play. A lot of the uniqueness is gone.