From gimmick to identity: have Thresh's souls add rings to his chains

Photos of Ghosts··2 votes·378 views

Imagine Thresh starting with 150 aa and flay range, and 200 hook range, then scaling infinitely (maybe a cap at 800 aa and flay and 1500 hook at like 50+ mins, indicatively Blitz's is like 900) as he farms souls. Is Thresh strong as a support with this change? Yes, he can do crazy gamechanging stuff late game. Is he still the "jack of all trades" that prevents anyone else from being picked? No, cause he has a shitty laning phase. He's good with a Vayne or Tris, not with an MF, or even a Kog. Is he viable as ADC? He scales ultra hard at the expense of his laning phase. Is he viable as a solo lane bruiser? If he gets a slight armor at lvl1 buff, yes. Is he viable as AP caster? No, this change doesn't address that, but I have a solution for that too: removing the AP from souls (maybe putting MR instead?) and buffing his AP scalings.

Remove the slow from flay tho. That's really overkill on that ability.

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Lord Dusteon1 votes

"What if Thresh literally didn't exist earlygame?"

How about no. Your change makes picking Thresh a lose-lose situation: if someone goes Thresh they need a lot of souls to become even slightly relevant, but they need to be relevant to not instantly lose lane and be unable to get any souls.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

He still can peel an engaging Leona or so. As a compensation he could get quicker animations - they're slow and have windups because they can decide the laning phase right now, but that could easily be changed.

Lord Dusteon2 votes

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He still can peel an engaging Leona or so. As a compensation he could get quicker animations - they're slow and have windups because they can decide the laning phase right now, but that could easily be changed.

That's real helpful when his peel requires him to be glued to the adc to even work. Yeah, sure is helpful when to peel you have to be standing right next to an enemy. Not like multi target and AoE spells exist, or that they come with CC often.

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

Dude, its supposed to be an overall nerf. He can't be overwhelming to every older supports for many years yet.

Lord Dusteon2 votes

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Dude, its supposed to be an overall nerf. He can't be overwhelming to every older supports for many years yet.

"Overall nerf" "massively reduce all ranges"

That's not a nerf anymore. That's a gutting. You want to cut his hook range by 81.8% (HINT HARD TO BE RELEVANT WHEN YOUR SKILL JUST LOST ALL USE), cut hit AA range by 66.7%, and cut hit Flay range by 62.5%. You are not trying to nerf thresh, you are trying to remove him from the game (oh, he's so useful when all his skills require him to be hugging the freaking adc to work).

Nilok2 votes

Unless it's honest about being an overall nerf instead of a "compensation" buff.

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