Let's talk about Morgana for a sec...

Cloud273·Sep 15, 2017·8 votes·948 views

We all know that along with Kayle, Morgana will eventually get an update. What do you think should be changed about Morgana? What parts of her kit should be preserved? Personally I think she's perfect the way she is, but if they absolutely must change her I hope they at least keep her black shield. Being able to make your allies immune to cc is obviously very useful. In fact, when she's on the same team as her sister you can make one of your allies literally untouchable if you combine their shields.

19 Comments

Vhan8765Sep 15, 20178 votes

I personally like Morg as she is as well, but if we're gonna change her any then I just say combine her Q and W so when the Dark Binding actually connects the Tormented Soil will then come up after. With things like that, Morg can get a whole new W, which will in turn give her more to do then throw out a Q and hope it lands actually so she can follow up.

RogueWillSep 15, 20171 votes

then you would have to reduce the damage considerably since a big part of her current kit is combining those two abilities.

I think i would go for a new ult instead. Her current ult has no real tie to the rest of her kit and it feels alien to her gameplay. Is useful if you are being ignored or as a counterengage but it doesn't call morgana in any way.

Slack KingSep 16, 20171 votes

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I personally like Morg as she is as well, but if we're gonna change her any then I just say combine her Q and W so when the Dark Binding actually connects the Tormented Soil will then come up after. With things like that, Morg can get a whole new W, which will in turn give her more to do then throw out a Q and hope it lands actually so she can follow up.

This is an issue, as her original Q damage was over time. So if they buy merc treads they can gut some of her damage.

PePsiLemoNNSep 16, 20171 votes

Sure let's just combine 2 abilities without nerfing any numbers :^)

DonatellaVersaceSep 16, 20174 votes

Her kit could use some minor tweaks, but what really needs attention are her visuals. She looks disgusting.

Forhonor321Sep 16, 20173 votes

New passive for sure. It's pretty much bland in my opinion, especially in early game when all of your damage abilities are on a pretty high cooldown. Can be good late game when you have CDR and lots of AP, but doesn't feel satisfying early on and may feel like hidden power later.

Q is a must stay along with E. Both of these are completely iconic to her. A year long root which when it ends the match is over and E gives you the power of an Olaf ult for 5 seconds, so long as the shield holds from magic damage.

W I feel could change. It's just not that interesting of an ability, only really used to help farm, heal off of minions, and combo with Q. It could be replaced with something better.

Ult is... well... I have mixed opinions. On the one hand, it's a giant root effect that could help set up Q targets even, on the other it's basically a Amumu ult that has a bit much of counterplay with delay and enemies walking away. Maybe it could work if they somehow buff it in a way to make it feel a bit better but I'd honestly wouldn't mind if they tried something new (but bullshit broken or stupid).

cocacolalipsSep 16, 20173 votes

Morgana is a non interactive binary mess with 2 overpowered spells and 3 useless ones. Her gameplay needs to be more than the one of a Q bot, she needs to be given more stuff to do, she needs to be able cast this new stuff more often, she needs to be able to make plays, to be a threat and menace.

Everything needs to be changed but her shield maybe, which is okay-ish by today standards.

She needs to act more like some kind of Black Angel / Death Deity / Fates (from the greek mythology).

That would be awesome if she actually used her wings for anything, have her go flying when she chases/haunts/strikes people from the sky for the final blow, she could also use her wings similarly to Braum shield, to block incoming crowd control (would replace her E), she could have something similar to illaoi E to replace her Q where she messes with people souls + some kind of life leech mechanic tied to it all to enforce the goddess of death aspect of it, where she plays with people'lives before taking said lives away.

DariusDemiurgeSep 15, 20172 votes

I'm always up for talking about my love Morgana. :3c

Overall I think she is good kit wise. Basic changes I'd like are giving her 550 auto range finally ffs. Maybe some cd changes, cause even with 30% cdr last time I played her I felt like I was idling too much compared to everyone else. Rebuff her passive or give her stat stacking 1 of all stats per assist or 3 per kill. >:3

I also like vhan8765's idea of combining her q and w sorta like how malzahar got his w and r combined. What would I give her for a new w if that happened I don't know yet. She is supposed to be a divine immortal supreme sorceress angel she should reflect that a bit better.

Darkdemon653Sep 15, 20172 votes

I like Morg a lot despite being one of the originals. Her Q, W, and ult all go well together. Her E has great flavor and goes with her ult nicely. The only changes I'd like to see are to her innate, obviously, and I think her ultimate should prevent dashes and blinks.

BobaFlautistSep 15, 20172 votes

Make Q faster, shorter duration (1.5-2.5s? 1-2? 1.5-2?), smaller hit box, shorter cooldown.
Frontload a bit of W's damage like how Nasus E works. However, Nasus e is 50/50 split, I just want the first 2-3 ticks to go off instantly. My goal would be to make it so that it does more or less the same damage over the duration of Q snare as it does on live, and is otherwise the same.
Reduce E duration from 5s to 3s. Reduce the cooldown at all levels by 20%. It would have the same (low) uptime, but you wouldn't be punished quite as hard for using it to trade, and enemies would be rewarded for holding their abilities for a bit to cc you instead of either trying to burst through or being unable to effect you. I would also consider reducing the base damage scaling per level and increasing the ratio. Also maybe make it shield both damage types? Makes it better for soaking damage, but allows ad champs to sometimes cc her.

R is fine. If you really wanna make it interesting, you could give Morgana increased movespeed towards tethered targets - or maybe some minor defensive boost so you can't just turn and kill her. As it is it feels like a moderate nuke with a slow attached, the chances of actually landing the second half are minimal unless the target is already cc'ed - but that might be appropriate. A bit of a ratio buff to make up for the multiple base damage nerfs would be awesome, but I'm not convinced it's necessary.

Mana costs are a bit high, but so is her mana pool and even just D-ring let's her sustain for days. That's why I'm not worried about keeping Q damage with a cooldown and speed buff, she'd be well gated by mana if she just spammed it

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 16, 20172 votes

Q and E should really stay.

W could be removed, essentially just old Malz W. Makes her mid lane dull as well. Passive could be removed or heavily reworked.

Ultimate could stay but would need major adjustments. It's currently just a non-ranged Varus ult. The mobility in the game makes her ultimate pretty 'meh' as well.

BlåbæretSep 15, 20171 votes

Her Q needs to be removed. Bullshit ability with next to no counterplay with that massive hitbox.

PoskeSep 15, 20171 votes

Whats the point of talking about Archaic morgana

They have to rework Yasuo le bl azir and other interesting kits first before archaic champs

We can expect volibear rework in 2030

As far as morgana goes she needs massive buffs.

Poop tier atm

Her passive is dull Her w is dull Her R is dull yes it is.. yep yes Her q is Ok since its signature ability I guess Her black shield is unique although gimmicky... since it only stops magic dmg

warpenguin555Sep 15, 20171 votes

obviously a new passive

Death by GlamourSep 16, 20171 votes

For certain her passive has to go and black shield has to stay.

inplaneSep 16, 20171 votes

I really like the concept of her W and her soul-draining effects. Really gives off a hollow, deadly vibe to the point where things die around her from her mere presence. I hope they make Kayle the opposite of that. Right now, both of them are just a bucket of different concepts mashed into two bodies.