The worst part of being a Jungler when your team is behind....
....is that your team take literally ALL your jungle camps, but will throw a massive hissy fit if you take cs from their lane
....is that your team take literally ALL your jungle camps, but will throw a massive hissy fit if you take cs from their lane
Jungling when you have NO good laners is horrible. I was 11-4-3 as fiddlesticks yesterday with full kill participation. My team blamed me for the loss, when my mid kat had less damage than my bot supp malphite.
Do not spend any money on this game.
Jungling when you have NO good laners is horrible. I was 11-4-3 as fiddlesticks yesterday with full kill participation. My team blamed me for the loss, when my mid kat had less damage than my bot supp malphite.
Do not spend any money on this game.
Playing any position when the other 4 are horrible isn't much fun.
The worst roles to play when all others are bad in order (IMO)
Naaah, Support is way higher than Top, and that comes from someone having played both. And I never played ADC, but I expect that it's still much worse than Top. Top is probly the best position to play when you are the only decent player on your team. You can wreck your lane, build a lead, and the enemy jungler will probably focus on snowballing the lanes that are already ahead, so he will leave you alone if you ward halfway decently. "Top is an island" that also means you don't have to deal with the sh*t the rest of your team is making if you don't want to.
I too would place support over top as worst place to be when other members of your team are bad. This is partially cause you have a chance of your lane partner being the bad one. Atleast in top, you can control your island. As support, having your adc always step too far or ignore warning pings for ganks is one of the most frustrating experiences in the game. Also as support, you usually do not have the damage to make up for a weak carry laner. Atleast when you are top, mid, or adc, you have the chance to fill in some of their damage loss if you get yourself fed.
Imo i think sup and jungler are tied for first, cause once you fall just a bit behind as support. You're virtually useless because you cant roam solo, you cant easily place helpful wards without 1. Being useless or 2. Getting instantly fucking sweeped by
. Not to mention the fact that 9/10 your team will get rotated on and start ping spamming "mia" on you because you wanted to give us a bit of vision on baron..
Right, I'm so dumb :P (gonna edit now)
Well, I don't know if Support "deserves" the very first place, my point was it his harder than Top. I think Top and Mid are tied for the last slot, because they are solo lanes, and the other 3 can all be a terrible experience, in different ways, because you depend on other people even in order to do your basic job.
Everyone else is over here wondering hoe he coulda lost with a kat
mean while im still trying to comprehend how this can peel for adc
bot supp malphite.
Support Malphite is an engager support like Alistar.
Was playing
a game ago. My mid laner picked
into
and fed their ass off then proceed to take my toucans AND my wolves; meanwhile my top laner (also feeding) took my krugs; after this the enemy jg and took my red and the enemy mid took my blue. ALL I HAD WAS A GROMP WHEN I WAS THE ONLY ONE ON MY TEAM NOT FEEDING.
#YesIAmSalty
For real if you're behind at least leave the big toucan; I need it for ward sweeping and the big wolf spirit to guard my blue side jg
[zombie-nunu-tears]
preach
I've never found that to be an issue.
I tend to take a lot of lane minions from my team as a jungler, but I always make sure to take them when it is appropriate.
After the laning phase ends, the only camps aside from buffs I particularly care about are Gromp and Raptors for the smite buffs. Though, Wolves are nice when we have no control of our jungle.
I find my allies will generally leave Raptors and Gromp for me when I ask; they want to win the game and it's a better use of resources for me to have those smite buffs.
Is it bad to smite cannon only after the laner gets a kill when I gank? Sometimes I feel like a dck for doing it but I haven't received a complaint since I only do it when they get the kill.
If you smite the canny and than I read in the chat "no smite" before a dragon contest soon after, I will report you even if only to feel less tilted :D
After successful gank, just reset the wave with your laner, it's better for them and you can take more than one minion in the process.
It's better than relying on your laner to lask hit it for your SotA. If they throw a hissy fit over 50 gold that is their problem when you get 20 permanent health and the 50 gold.
Obviously don't do it if dragon is available to take, but other than that I don't see a problem.
Mines tends to be just feeding, I just wet 11/0/2 most solo kills and lost cause all of my team was 0/10
How about when your teammates take your jungle camp AS YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF CLEARING IT.
Yes, mid, I started the raptor camp so that you could take all of them. The fact that he's now stealing all of the experience as well as the gold for the camp makes this doubly infuriating.
I last hit/sniped a cannon minion on
while my
laner was far away, after I had been focusing his lane/roaming with him as much as possible and trying to get him fed(which we succeeded in doing). I had not taxed his lane once. Still got rage pings for that cannon minion, tho LOL
As a former mid main i got cancer every time when my lanes win/lose bot just goes mid and steal cs... that's why i started playing top... me and my Nasus farming in peace.
I thought it would be the realization that you've picked a hypercarry jungle that couldn't contribute to a teamfight and thats all the enemy is going to do for the rest of the game?
P.S. this is why I like utility tanky disruptive jungles. They can turn these scenarios around pretty easily actually.
Very true. As a jungle Rengar main, the moment the enemy team groups up is when my job gets a lot harder, especially when we have zero engage.
So it makes me sad when none of our laners are ahead because that usually means a loss unless we get some lucky picks.
Rengar is not an engager. He is an assassin. He goes in, kills, then ducks out ASAP. If he is going in first then it is almost always a dead Rengar unless the enemy team just sucks. Lol.
more like when your laner doesn't help you in the jungle while enemy invade, and complains about you not giving blue buff.
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I take jungle camps regardless because its free exp
Even if you're in lane? Do you realize that a) you're wasting exp because the jungler gets more exp from jungle camps than you and b) you're depriving the jungler of his/her number one source of exp?
I do it late game cause they are super easy to clear, but early-mid i take the enemy jungle camps. sorry if i didn't clarify..
Right XD
Lol, I take camps when my team is ahead too, I'll do whatever I can for more gold coins :D.
which is okay, unless your jungle is about to take that camp. Ive had mids come take my raptors as I'm walking to them, or worse as I'm doing them
Ya, I don't take camps as my Jungler is taking them or if hes super behind, unless he's a Dbag. I mean if I'm a champ who benefits from Blue buff and your Lee Sin than I might be kinda frustrated that you won't let me have it LOL.
Hi, I used to be a jungle main, with a pretty good win rate with Elise and kda, like 60% over 70 games, but then I stopped after realized I did so much better playing in the bottom lane. I am a heavy taxer by the way. TAXATION SENSATION!! -ex jungle main
There's a reason the Jungler Tax was instituted years ago.
Laners threat junglers like their only job is to help them get feed, but when jungler gets screwed in the process its his own fault.
and all the enemies always have flash up when you try to fight them because they haven't had to use it when they fight your teammates.