For those who don't like Fiora's rework

YumaS2Astral··4 votes·1,245 views

Instead of building her like a full damage melee carry like you would do before (item 3074 item 3158 item 3035 item 3142 item 3031 item 3026)

Why don't you try to build her as a Tri-force bruiser? Just like how you would build Irelia Jax Fizz

With item 3078 item 3153 and then tank items.

This is an idea I had after seeing her new kit. I am still testing that build though. It seems like her kit now doesn't need to focus heavily on damage due to:

  • Passive having % true damage which is consistent regardless of how much AD you have;
  • Lunge has low base damage but has low cooldown and applies on-hit effects. This heavily screams "Trinity procs" on my opinion. It is important to note that Fiora has higher base AD than Fizz, which is another champion who people build with a Tri-force tanky build.
  • Riposte allows Fiora to block crowd control and an auto-attack, allowing her to duel better.
  • Bladework would allow Fiora to burst down squishies and synergizes with BotrK allowing her to proc it on 2 more attacks.
  • Finally, with the way that Fiora's new ult works, it would be better if she built tanky to allow her to survive long enough to hit all the four vitals on a target and to allow her to survive during teamfights which are where Fiora will need the heal for . Even though not building full AD will make her ult heal for less, her ult already has fantastic base value and scaling.

Of course this is all theory and I have yet to test it for enough time, especially since it is difficult to play Fiora today given how she is most of time either banned or picked before I can pick her, or sometimes I don't even have the chance to go top. This means that my chances to have an opportunity to play Fiora are very low.

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Cowgirl Ed1 votes

how about phrozen mallet and ionian boots

Critmaster Garen1 votes

building her as a triforce bruiser means a lot of wasted potential. she scales very strong with bonus ad while she has low base stats.

she simply requires a lot of skill and micromanagement to pull off, but if you do the payoff is gigantic.

from what ive seen during her time on the pbe, she scales crazy with flat ad and cdr. imo the best combination of items she could pick is

item 3074 item 3158 item 3071 item 3072 item 3156 and item 3026 or some other defensive item.

tons of raw ad, 40% cdr and the shields and lifesteal give her decent defensive stats.

Sasogwa1 votes

item 3031 item 3143 item 3110 item 3065 item 3102

Critmaster Garen1 votes

its to note, that both her heal and her true damage scale with bonus ad. meaning if you build her tank or bruiser her passive is terrible.

it will sit around at like 3% to 4% or something like that.

shes not ike irelia who always gets a reliable amount of flat true damage, and thus can itemize into attack speed and otherwise tanky.

buster kiton1 votes

It's close to 8% with only botrk and cleaver, which is decent for a tanky person.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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It's close to 8% with only botrk and cleaver, which is decent for a tanky person.

taken from the wiki.

Basic attacks against Vitals deal 3% (+「 2.8% - 4.5% 」per 100 bonus AD) of target's maximum health bonus true damage

bork and cleaver grant combined 50 ad. (40 from cleaver, 10 from bork). at level 18 that makes 3% + 2,25% = 5,25% max health true damge.

compared to a real ad build its shit. the new fiora doesnt even really profit from attack speed. bork is pretty terrible on her. you get more % health damage out of a bloodthirster because of her passive, than from auto attacking with a bork. plus the bt grants more lifesteal and a shield.

she also has terrible waveclear, thats why she still wants a hydra.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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taken from the wiki.

bork and cleaver grant combined 50 ad. (40 from cleaver, 10 from bork). at level 18 that makes 3% + 2,25% = 5,25% max health true damge.

compared to a real ad build its shit. the new fiora doesnt even really profit from attack speed. bork is pretty terrible on her. you get more % health damage out of a bloodthirster because of her passive, than from auto attacking with a bork.

Actually, BotrK gives 25 AD. It is still not a lot more, however. It is mostly used for its passive and its active instead of its attack speed.

With that said I was also thinking of building her like Renekton: with item 3071 item 3074 as the offensive items, then tanky.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Actually, BotrK gives 25 AD. It is still not a lot more, however. It is mostly used for its passive and its active instead of its attack speed.

With that said I was also thinking of building her like Renekton: with item 3071 item 3074 as the offensive items, then tanky.

but why go overkill on defense? just build enough to survive and them make use of your stupidly high ad scalings. i mean if you trigger the heal, the more ad you have the more youre helping your team. the more damage you deal with that mark, the more likely it is to get that heal.

i dont understand the desire to build her tanky. maybe because its easier? i guess you could do it until youre more practised with her, then proceedingly build more offense from game to game.

i have never seen a yasuo just build shiv and i.e. then tank. it would be just as weird.

lightdragoon881 votes

item 3074 item 3022 item 3031 Tanky.

Trinity sucks on her. It just sucks. It might be good in lane, but once you leave lanes and go beyond 1v1, the item is horrible on her.

terkmc1 votes

Actually building cdr seems pretty viable. Her E have almost no cd and act as basically her as steroid. Her Q have like 2s cd and allow her to repostion hitting vital really quickly. IE is the only thing she will ever need for damage with the passive and E crit. item 3071 item 3110 item 3031 or item 3158 item 3142 item 3508 and then buidl what ever you want

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