did riot nerf kayle's stats a bit too much ?

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Stats

Base attack damage reduced to 50 from 52.

Base armor reduced to 26 from 28.

Base attack speed reduced to 0.667 from 0.695.

Stats

    Base health regeneration reduced to 5 from 6.

    Armor growth reduced to 3 from 3.5.

📷 Radiant Blast

    Mana cost increased to 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80.

📷 Celestial Blessing

    Base movement speed reduced to 24 / 28 / 32 / 36 / 40% from 26 / 32 / 38 / 44 / 50%.

    Mana cost changed to 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 from 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90.

📷 Starfire Spellblade

    Bonus magic damage reduced to 8 / 10 / 12 / 14 / 16% of target's missing health from 10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20%.

    New Effect: Bonus magic damage now scales with 1% per 100 AP.

-so i am wondering , she had 100 hp / level ,now she has 85

-her dmg is only 50 at lvl 1 and barely passing 90 at lvl 18

-armor barely passing 75 at lvl 18 (meanwhile creatures like pyke have 130 armor at lvl 18 for some reason)

-kayle also needs at least 400 ap to get that 20% E back

-mana costs are pretty high also imo

-late game even , using a rotation halves the total mana ..or close to it

-W is 100 mana as is R

-less armor means getting destroyed by renekton/irelia/etc way easier also and getting bullied out more easily

whats ur take on current state of kayle and what is agugustus trying to achieve ?

3 Comments

BrightWîngs2 votes

Yes, their logic in nerfing Kayle wasn't nerfing what was strong about her they nerfed her weakest point ( her early game) where base stats matter the most making her from weakest champion early game to the most garbage useless champion early game. her late game is still really good but if youre gonna play for late game just dont play Kayle theres far better late game scaling champions that arnt even close to as trash as her early game.

examples: Jax wouldn't even consider him weak early Kassadin pretty shit until level 6 (Kayle is shit till level 11) Nasus Can ignore most laners early stack up and demolish you if you cant kill him early Veigar Kinda the same deal plays safe early and one shots you at level 6 Yasuo Wouldn't consider him weak early hes actually quite strong early Tryndamere his early good with his passive and even if he loses lane and feeds his but off hes just gonna split all game and still be useful to his team. Gangplank I dont think hes INSANELY good early but he can Q poke all day and is relatively safe with ms from barrels and cleanse form W Fiora can be quite the oppressive laner especially if you're a tank

Hard to add any ADCs because they do rely on supports early but I still think Vayne Kaisa do just fine in the early game and dont struggle too hard.

Lugg1 votes

Not at all. He's still a God tier champion.

Leon41671 votes

I don't think so. They nerfed her early game yes but her late game is still insanely strong. All it means you just have to play a bit more passively early unless your jungler is camping your lane. Getting to lvl 6 is still a pretty good power spike and surprisingly easy to 1v1 if you got your passive proced and time your ult well. But like before once you hit lvl 11 you'll pick up really well if you've farmed good enough and if it drags out to lvl 16 you're in hypercarry mode.

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