Boy oh boy, yasuo kit sure is overloaded.

Cenobite Azaziel··10 votes·3,512 views

Before you nag about win rates (yasuo is at 50.4% - a number that's pretty decent considering monsters like lux and ahri) I just made this post because I believe there are people like me that have misconceptions about yasuo, because many don't know some facts about his kit. Yes. This is a qq thread.

Passive: His passive grants you a free shield. No problem with that. The problem is when people say yasuo is squishy. Yasuo gets a anti burst shield that by the end of the game is better than malphites passive. The tank. No problem with that, considering you can pop it during lane phase and engage while it is on cooldown. The problem is during team fights. While you have to dig through 520 hp, you don't have the luxury to stop focusing yasuo like a malphite. Stop focusing yasuo and he will eat you alive. But wait, if he ults you he get's a brand new shield. 1040 hp. So burst is a bad choice, because he will soak up the damage and if he hits a ult, your bust meant nothing. If you try to dps him he will eat you alive. So what is the counter play? Hope yasuo makes a mistake so you can hit his shield once and after that hard engage? Why does flow recharge while we are smashing him so harassing adds up counter play like malphite or garen passive? Add to that the 2x crit.

Q: I always wondered why people rushed BOTRK for yasuo after the statik. "The cooldown and cast time of Steel Tempest is reduced by 「 0.6% for every 1% bonus attack speed 」, down to a maximum 66% reduction." Wow, free cooldown from other stats? Hum... item 3070 Azir item 3070 . In pratical terms you double yasuo dps. 4 cooldown becomes 2.4 and the cast time is greatly reduced. So by late game it is easier for yasuo to hit you. Q counter play is hope he miss you. It reminds me some other champion Q that has a casting time now... item 3070 Darius item 3070

W: Stops ult for your team. And it stays there eating anything you throw at it. Better than any spell shield in the game. The counter play is removing the barrier between you and yasuo. You know, the guy that make is in the top 3 mobility champions. Braum item 3070 One manly tear because after the fist skill/hit he has to receive damage for his team and receive the CC. That's a man job Braum.... Wait, item 3070 Braum item 3070 crying like a little girl because his shield stops only oncoming and yasuo wall doesn't care from where the projectile is coming?And yasuo wall is LARGER?

E: Not much to see. It is a simple skill that... oh come on.... "The speed of the dash scales with Yasuo's bonus movement speed." There isn't much to talk about here, because... you know.... Kalista .

R- Damage that scales with AD. Knock up. And.. BOOM! 50% armor reduction. Because.... free stats. No problem there. Honest. The problem is anything is considered a knock up. Draven E? check. Tresh E? check. Crossing the street and there is a curb in front of you? Check.

TL;DR.

So yasuo gets : Free HP for walking, for using E, for ulting. Free cd and casting time on his Q from attack speed. Free 2x = 1.9 crit. Free 50% armor pen.

Meanwhile Akali E just deals damage around her. Because her E proc Q is an overloaded thing.

14 Comments

SuchSwagSuchweed5 votes

Over loaded not really, his w is what I find to be really bad. A wall that blocks any thing including ults. Braum does the same but for the first ability. I don't think he needs a nerf but his wall probably does need a rework.

dannykun1 votes

I wish that his ult caused projectiles to proc at the wall instead of eating it up. That way Ashe ult's or something like that, which explodes on impact, CAN be blocked, but only if you get away from the wall, and it doesn't feel like a waste of your ult when he does windwall it.

Actin2 votes

Be OP Queue up for bronze game Get rolled in lane by really good Yasuo Decide to main Yasuo Queue up for another bronze game Get rolled as Yasuo See guise 50% win rate perfectly balanced rito pls nerf Irelia

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

{quoted}

Be OP Queue up for bronze game Get rolled in lane by really good Yasuo Decide to main Yasuo Queue up for another bronze game Get rolled as Yasuo See guise 50% win rate perfectly balanced rito pls nerf Irelia

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/br/6901184#matches Plat III. Does your argument work now?

dannykun1 votes

You're missing out on some of the more important things that actually make his kit overloaded. The CC from q casts, which gives him an aoe knockup every 7 seconds if he goes for the AS for CDR on q. The full second extension of any knockup from his ult. His e being castable on minions, gives him an edge when chasing. The double crit chance from his passive. He's got way more than just what you've pointed out.

That said, the only thing that needs to be done to yasuo is to take away some of the more oppressive things in his kit and give him back some numbers elsewhere. So They could take away his shield, so that his counter becomes burst casters, and he looks out for more drawn out battles like vlad does. They could simply make his ult not have armor pen, making very tanky champs counter him. The last suggestion would have to be removing his high mobility on e and giving him some sort of steroid that makes all his other damage do a little more. This would force him into the Assassin role, giving him an easy way in using q, or any knockup, into ult, but at the same time making him extremely vulnerable when he screws up on it with no out if he makes a mistake.

Spizzle90001 votes

His kit may be overloaded, but what about Riven's or Vayne's? They're even worse.

Slamurai Jack1 votes

Never call a melee only champion overloaded. Especially one with no escape. Yasuo's kit is entirely single minded: Move around fast and hit things while using wind wall and his shield to keep him alive while he does this. If you want to talk about real overloaded kits; you want to look at champions like Ekko.

DrNova1 votes

YOU DONT FUCKIN TALK ABOUT EKKO!!!

CryoThorn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iyEAGBPv,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-09-27T00:20:47.787+0000)

Never call a melee only champion overloaded. Especially one with no escape. Yasuo's kit is entirely single minded: Move around fast and hit things while using wind wall and his shield to keep him alive while he does this. If you want to talk about real overloaded kits; you want to look at champions like Ekko.

Ekko is also a melee champion. What are you on about? Yasuo's kit has one weakness, he has no escape without minions. I'm going to list why he's overloaded with spells that are too powerful. Double Critical strike chance at the cost of 10% less damage on critical strikes, and 25% less damage on Q crits (which doesn't matter because item 3031 ). This is way too powerful because it makes it so yasuo can run full attack speed runes, and get a phantom dancer to cap out his attack speed cd on his q, and an infinity edge, then he can build straight AD/lifesteal or even tank (looking at you item 3022 ). Windwall: is the most powerful basic ability in league of legends. It blocks literally everything thrown at it, whilst on a 20 second cooldown, this allows for yasuo to block crowd control (His supposed counter) unless it's from a melee source (example being braum's passive). Speaking of braum, his "wind wall" is much shittier, sure he can move during it, but after the first projectile, Braum still takes damage from them, unlike yasuo. Yasuo's ultimate, providing him 50% bonus armor penetration (Ie half of armor you bought is gone). The fact that a vayne e can allow yasuo to blink to a target is unbelievable. Knockups need to be redefined so this guy stops synergizing well with anyone that has a displacement spell (Or better yet, make it so it only works on HIS knockup, requiring yasuo players to have to land a skillshot.) If Yasuo gets his two item power spike (IE, PD). He's then enabled to build straight raw damage and tank. Frozen Mallet, Bloodthirster are two of these items he abuses, on top of warlords which he takes to get through what little poking mages do to him in the early game. Yasuo counters burst because of his passive shield and windwall, and he beats sustained damage dealers because of his earlier powerspike and mobility (not to mention an auto q will burst a squishy pretty quick). Yasuo needs some strengths taken out of his kit, like what happened to Camille.

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

I think he's just really good at punishing mistakes made by other players because he's so agile

But other than that I don't think his kit is overloaded at all, especially considering how easy it is to shit on Yas if you know what you're doing. Next time you see Yas mid just pick Irelia mid, enjoy free win.

Catastrop1 votes

I don't think the kit is that overloaded(still wish he'd just get deleted). What I have a problem with is the fact that the wall destroys projectiles during the cast time.

COWmanLord1 votes

One quick correction. Yasuo actually has less than an overall 50.4% (at least at plat and above). The 50.4% winrate is just for top lane yasuo. Midlane yasuo only has a 48.47% win rate putting him in the bottom third for mid.

It's easy to make anything sound overpowered when you word it the right way. Let's take Galio for example.

Passive: You get Ap for building mr. So basically you get free damage for building defensively. That means you can counter build the enemy apc while gaining damage at the same time. This even includes base mr. So that ap is LITERALLY COMPLETELY FREE. He doesn't even need to buy any items and he will get free ap

Q: His Q has really good base damage, decent range, and and AOE slow. All in one. If you get too close you not only take a bunch of damage, but you also are slowed for other abilities to hit you easily.

W: More Free stats. He gets to give FREE bonus armor and mr to ANY ally. His passive even works with the mr so if he uses this on himself when its maxed he gets FREE 45 ap ON top of the resistances. He even heals every time he takes damage. EVERY time he takes damage with it on him. That makes any dot ability or even just minion autos heal him multiple times while giving him free resistances and free ap. He can even heal when he uses it on other people so he can heal without even being in danger.

E: He gets both AOE damage and movespeed from this. When he uses it his entire team can get 52% extra movespeed without them having to do anything at all. Ya know who else gets free movespeed from offensive abilities Garen MasterYi and these don't even help you team. You basically get a free righteous glory that deals damage on a 5 second cooldown if you build some cdr.

Ult: Ult does great damage, can keep an entire team from moving, and silences that entire team as well. How is a midlaner supposed to fight this? All they can do is auto attack, and that just INCREASES the damage of the ult. The auto won't even do much damage because galio can cast w during the ult so he is getting FREE healing while you auto.

TLDR: Galio gets Free ap for building defensive Free defensive stats that give you more free ap and free healing Free movespeed

See. Doesn't that make Galio sound op? Of course Galio does have 52.4% win rate in top and a 53% win rate in mid with him only having a bad win rate as suppport so maybe he is supa stronk. Though you don't see anyone complain about him do ya?

Only Play Darius1 votes

If you think he's so strong why don't you go play him?

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iyEAGBPv,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-09-28T05:06:14.783+0000)

If you think he's so strong why don't you go play him?

Main jungle.

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