Everyone hates on "added burst from Duskblade"

DeusVult··2 votes·838 views

but far fewer people complain about Trinity Force or Sheen

item 3147 costs 2900, gives lethality and the passive burst component. At level 10, this will deal 93.5 damage. (17.2 armor pen at that level.)

item 3057 costs 1050, gives 100% base AD on proc, 1.5sec CD. item 3078 costs 3733, gives 200% base AD on proc, in addition to the tons of other stats it gives.

Lets take a look at 4 champs at level 10, 2 who dont build TF, one who always does, and one who can opt to. If they build Duskblade, they will all deal the same amount. (93.5)

Zed has 89.3 base AD at level 10, so with TF he deals 178.6. Now Zed never buys TF because he wants to get his combo off without waiting for more procs, and also because he has no mana.

Talon has 92 base AD, TF proc deals 184. Talon doesnt buy TF because he really wants the lethality component and he tries to execute his combo in as little time as possible.

Irelia 94 base AD, TF proc deals 188. Staple of her build. Can look to proc it multiple times per fight.

Poppy 95 base AD, TF proc deals 190. Can build it but needs tank items to perform role.

So just from a math perspective, TF brings far more burst than duskblade and can be looked to proc several times in a fight. But you dont see anyone complaining about it.

The easy access to lethality and the inability of champs targeted by builders of lethality to get armor into their kit early is the real culprit here

7 Comments

Alzon2 votes

Gotta factor in the raw AD, effective HP reduction (aka Lethality), and lower price point of Duskblade.

L Rayquaza1 votes

Khazix item 1400 item 3117 item 3078 item 3147 item 3142 item 3026 (evolve r) why not both

Slim Gragas1 votes

Nah, many people have a problem with burst damage in general this season like me. It's just even worse on items like Duskblade and Stormrazor. It makes the champions who are already burst-oriented like Zed awful to play against.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

trinity force is fucking retarded that's why

makes divers becoming tank zeds

Khristophoros1 votes

Probably because mid assassins rush a Duskblade in like 10-12 minutes and power spike hard off it because everything on the item is focused on giving them what they want.

Beatrice falls1 votes

Because even if ahead as a mage or any carry, you have to build item 3157 otherwise when an assassin gets this item, even if you have 3 items, he deletes you in less than a second ?

Alex h87211 votes

Triforce is also close to 1000 gold more expensive

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