There are a couple of items that might need to be changed

Rozair··1 votes·322 views

Mostly Ad items but all of the following items give too much stats and provide too much bonus stats while possibly having 2 passives. All hidden op crap

item 3036 item 3033 item 3156 item 3116 item 3748 item 3508

If you look at why these items are OP well

item 3036 and item 3033 have the best armor pen item in the game and then a 2nd passive tacked on just because they want to make ADC's super op item 3508 again another op ADC item. Unlimited mana while also having 30% CDR!!!! item 3156 Want an item that counters any ap champion in the game. Here you go now you can 1v1 any mage in the game. As a bonus we'll also tack on some ARMOR PEN to make you do more damage to them as well. item 3116 This item gives way too much ability power for an item like this. I say boost the health and lower the AP similar to item 3022 item 3748 Really isn't op but it falls into the catagory of an item that groups with other items and becomes stronger the more health you have. I thought this was why Atmas was delete. (R.I.P. Atmas)

As a bonus why are adcs building item 3142 item 3071 and item 3147 . Clearly something is wrong with itemization if you see adcs building these items. Not that they shouldnt be able to, but they shouldnt be effective like they are. I hope the assassin rework changes this.

PS: Add item 3170 to summoners rift

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

item 3033 item 3036 only is effective vs bonus armor... not base armor and not good vs teams that dont stack armor cuz the % armor reduction is less the less BONUS ARMOR a champ has...

there are only 3-4 adcs that can use the item 3142 item 3071 item 3147 effectively that being Draven Jhin Lucian MissFortune its more so due to their kits design then the items themselves

item 3116 issue isnt the amount of ap but the passive and how champs like Cassiopeia can cause perma slow effects due to the spaming abilities. is it the item or the champs design?

they already nerfed the damage on item 3022 and increased the HP so champs that were abusing it Cough Yasuo cough are less likely to build it now

item 3156 is a good item but not build every game on every champ that has ad... it is meant to counter heavy sustain ap damage... however i thing the raw stats arent bad on it... i think the 2nd passive on it is where it is broken

item 3748 is just the tanky version of item 3074 it is good for champs who dont build alot of damage and go more bruiser / off tank roles like Sion if you build it on Fiora its not as effective as she scales on bonus ad and not hp.... i think it is fine it has low base ad on the item and you really have to invest a good chunk of gold for it 3500

Rozair1 votes

item 3036 and item 3033 have 2 passives. Thats the problem. item 3165 + item 3135 = one of % armor pen items. Also you have an option which AP does not offer. Im not complaining about the armor pen itself but the fact that its so cheap for 2 amazing passives

item 3142 item 3071 item 3147 so they are still a problem

item 3116 alot of champs other than Cassiopeia can perma slow as well. Im fine with perma slow but it would have to take a huge chunk of ap out of it. Bring it down to 60 ap 500 health and 2900 gold.

item 3156 every ad champ every game. Again this is a problem for a supposed "counterbuild item"

item 3748 is not op I just think the design is wonky. Personal opinion

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

item 3156 is built every game cuz there is ap damage in every game.... ta da

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

item 3033 2nd passive applies grievous wounds for 5 secs .... not the entire time and only built vs super healers like DrMundo item 3036 2nd passive is only effective vs champs that have more HP then the person with item 3036 has they both have low ad being 50

item 3116 is a bit over powered but its more to do with the passive then anything else...

item 3142 is ideally a burst/dueling item for ad assassin type of champs item 3071 is a bruiser item that some champs that have on hit effects like Jhin bouncing grenade applies stacks.. Lucian passive after an ability and mf double shot, ult , and make it rain applies multiple stacks. the 50 ad from this is considerable low the best part is the armor reduction and the cdr while providing some hp. but its costly for 3100 and if you already that far ahead as an ADC that getting this dont slow you down then the issue is your already ahead and this just makes you more dangerous.

i forgot to mention item 3508 last post.... i dont see it built often i wouldnt build this over item 3031 on auto attackers who scale with crit... Ashe Caitlyn Jinx i feel riot missed the target with this item it was designed for casters who need cdr and mana and still need some crit ideally it should be a fit for Ezreal Corki Lucian KogMaw Sivir

Rozair1 votes

item 3156 was not built every game for the past 5 seasons. Why not? Because its secretly super overpowered.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

or is it there is more ap damage in the game now ...? item 3116

what other item do you want their to be to offer mr and ad ?

i mean hell ap mages have

item 3001 item 3157 but lets bitch about a shield passive that has a cd

Marshbouy2 votes
Marshbouy2 votes

have the best armor pen item in the game and then a 2nd passive tacked on just because they want to make ADC's super op

No. They want to make tanks not busted af. If you got some evidence to show that "ADCs are super op" now and that tanks are garbage or something, i'd like to see it.

again another op ADC item. Unlimited mana while also having 30% CDR!!!!

item 3165 "OMG an OP mage item! Unlimited mana while also having 20% CDR (and it's 700g cheaper so thats where the extra CDR stat went)

Want an item that counters any ap champion in the game. Here you go now you can 1v1 any mage in the game. As a bonus we'll also tack on some ARMOR PEN to make you do more damage to them as well.

More QQ about MAW, again. item 3157 Want an item that counters any burst champion in the game and almost any champion that can't attack you through an invulnerablitiy? (hint everyone can't attack you through an invulnerability). Here you go! Now you can survive any all ins and dodge ultimates with just the press of a button! As a bonus we will tack on some CDR so you can get some spells up faster!

I agree. I don't think rylais should be quite as universal as it is now.

Really isn't op but it falls into the catagory of an item that groups with other items and becomes stronger the more health you have. I thought this was why Atmas was delete. (R.I.P. Atmas)

there is literally no issue with this item. Without counting it's passive an active it only has a 77.5% gold efficiency, which is piss poor for a legendary item. It scales back up to that 100% efficiency later in the game but it's far from OP.

As a bonus why are adcs building and . Clearly something is wrong with itemization if you see adcs building these items. Not that they shouldnt be able to, but they shouldnt be effective like they are. I hope the assassin rework changes this.

something is wrong with AD champions building AD items? Weird.

PS: Add to summoners rift

no.

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