"ADC that counter jinx"

Critmaster Garen·Sep 24, 2015·3 votes·3,398 views

http://i.imgur.com/d5PAtgw.png

so most of her hardest counters are champions where she just has a slightly above average winrate instead of a significant one. yup, this champion makes absolute sense.

edit.: i think what people dont realize is that she still has champions that she counters herself and has a far above 50% winrate against them. if she would sit at 50% against her "counters" and 50% against the champions she counters herself, it wouldnt be a problem. but as it is, shes either strong or very strong no matter who shes going into lane against. except for morde she has no actual counter, but still counters certain other adc.

9 Comments

ErasmosSep 24, 20152 votes

Can people stop bitching about the new morde? Its been like 2 patches since he came out and he isn't even that hard to play around.

Critmaster GarenSep 24, 20151 votes

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Can people stop bitching about the new morde? Its been like 2 patches since he came out and he isn't even that hard to play around.

im not even mentioning morde. look through the list. jinx is so broken, that even her top counters are mostly just champions where she has a slightly above average winrate instead of a negative one like most other champions.

for comparison, go to championgg and check garen. youll find that most of the first 10 champions that counter him actually counter him and win more games against him than theyre losing. it looks like this for almost every other champ in the game. and then there is jinx.

Valor BotSep 24, 20151 votes

Pretty sure the OP is talking about Jinx, not Morde.

Darth Pixy MisaSep 24, 20151 votes

The easiest way to fix this would be to buff early game ADC, like MF, Cait, Draven or buff BT to 100, instead of nerfing everyone into the ground............

100 hits and adc with 80ad + :

IE 80 x 160ad + 20 x 400ad = 20800

BT 100 x 180ad = 18000

Critmaster GarenSep 24, 20151 votes

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The easiest way to fix this would be to buff early game ADC, like MF, Cait, Draven or buff BT to 100, instead of nerfing everyone into the ground............

if you want to take a shit on every other lane and have adc back in mid and top lane, you can do that.

there is a reason why "early game adc" are a terrible idea. if you make a class that is supposed to be dominant lategame strong early game, you get the current vayne.

[{quoted}](name=Archon X,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ikgN6egN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-24T02:49:28.122+0000)

hey newsflash bruh 52% winrate ain't shit. Going to be a skill matchup for anything below 60%.

52% winrate is significant if were talking about her COUNTERS. this is not her overall winrate. youre forgetting, that she additionally has even more favourable matchups thats she counters herself with 54% winrate and upwards.

other champions statistics dont look like this. usually they have a less than 50% winrate against their counters. what this means, is that except for morde as a bot lane bruiser there is not 1 adc in the game that actually counters jinx.

Archon XSep 24, 20151 votes

hey newsflash bruh 52% winrate ain't shit. Going to be a skill matchup for anything below 60%.

HopFroggerSep 24, 20151 votes

Those percentages, to me, indicate a well-balanced champion pool. They are all within a few percentage points. That's not something to get upset over; Jynx is simply not OP. She is very good. Consider a moment that Kalista -- considered the most powerful ADC in the game -- doesn't show up.

Critmaster GarenSep 24, 20151 votes

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Those percentages, to me, indicate a well-balanced champion pool. They are all within a few percentage points. That's not something to get upset over; Jynx is simply not OP. She is very good. Consider a moment that Kalista -- considered the most powerful ADC in the game -- doesn't show up.

go to kalistas page and look through her top 10 counters pls. all of them have an above average winrate against her. this is the same for pretty much every champion in the game.

it would be balance if her own favourable matchups would also sit exactly at 50%. but she doesnt. shes above 50% winrate against her "counters" and far above 50% against the champs she counters. this is only the case with jinx.

jinx is a problem and its not a sign of balance. she is strong/stronger than her opponent no matter who youre picking against her into lane.

and most games in solo que win or lose with bot lane.

kalista might be the strongest adc in professional play. but the statistics dont lie. jinx is currently the strongest adc in solo que.