2nd Day after Skarner got reworked and he already got ~65% winrate in every elo

Drunken Yasuo··35 votes·3,329 views

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Can you hotfix this champ or sth? i need my ban spots for Vayne Riven Irelia already

35 Comments

Imperial Red14 votes

They are planning to hotfix nerf him at the start of next week.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GzunkiGw-initial-juggernaut-thoughts

Drunken Yasuo1 votes

ty didnt see that post

The Ecdysiast1 votes

But Yasuo's always drunk.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Are you implying he can't handle his drink?

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I'm implying he can't fight sober.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I'm implying he can't browse the internet sober.

ftfy

The Loveless1 votes

need it tonight tbqh

Rew7115 votes

Looks at Skarner getting some love and better games.

Looks at Vayne, Riven, and Irelia still at high win rates.

Sees Skarner getting nerfs soon.

Waits for the % health to leave Vayne, the damage on Riven's stun to go, and Irelia's not in a bad place (broken, but not bad).

Xanes4 votes

"better games", lmao. He is currently god-tier broken, its not even comparable to Vayne/Riven/Irelia. 65% winrate rivals stuff like release Zyra and release Xin Zhao. The next highest winrates are somewhere around 55% btw.

WoonStruck2 votes

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"better games", lmao. He is currently god-tier broken, its not even comparable to Vayne/Riven/Irelia. 65% winrate rivals stuff like release Zyra and release Xin Zhao. The next highest winrates are somewhere around 55% btw.

Says someone that probably wasn't around for release Xin.

Xanes1 votes

I was actually.

LostFr0st3 votes

I don't think the % health should leave Vayne, I think the free BF sword when she presses R should.
She shouldn't magically catch up to her lane opponent's items (if they've been zoning her) by pressing R.

Rew7112 votes

YES

I will honestly be running away and then... R + flash + tumble + static shiver + W = over 50% of my health in damage if melee or 25% or more if tank

LostFr0st1 votes

So, does that mean you'd be ok with her %health if the hidden BF was partially gone?

Rew7111 votes

Depends on what happens to her after it. Even if we take away the R bonus damage, I can go a game without ever using it and win (and I don't even own her yet, just on free weeks). Her ultimate doesn't scare me as much as her passive W. Teemo's E is horrible, but not instant like hers. Dealing 20–60 + 4–8% of my max health after just 3 hits. Now, Gnar's is more OP dealing up to 14% and 100% AP but he makes up for it because he's not always in his mini form, his range is 400 at the start and only 485 at 18 and he's super squishy in his mini form. Vayne has a way to lose gap closures and a bonus damage Q that is spam-able. Vayne has 550 range with 330 MS + bonus MS when gap closing enemies. She's OP and we all know it and losing the original % health damage and replacing it with 1/2/3/4/5% (+[1% AP]%) of targets max health would seem more on the lines of a fair fight against her.

PS take her mid with that W and get 1000 AP to deal 15% of the targets HP plus the regular damage.

DrMedSchmierpo3 votes

Garen Rengar Diana

Ultimatesplash1 votes

I'm not sure what makes Garen so strong, coming from a somewhat Garen main. I was performing well before and now if their tank is my villian, i can just nuke the crap outta him and keep killing, or the squishies just get E+R and they're dead if they have no escape. (altho, probably waste of ult)

Robert Smith1 votes

New items maybe?

fasega1 votes

It is definitely the new items. They helped him so much more then the rework did. Tho the rework did help a little the items Deathmans Plate and sterak's Gate literally fix every problem he had in his kit. I hope they don't quick fix him like skarner and at least wait a patch to see how strong he really is. Nice to finally be able to use him in rank and not feel like I could have chosen someone better.

Rew7111 votes

Rengar has a really low win rate right now. He's actually in the top 10 worst win rates. I think he's the ninth lowest.

Sire Hippington1 votes

for new rangars, yes, but experienced rangars rock a massive winrate(58% for 125+games top)

BlkGolem2 votes

It's not that he wasn't good before, it's that he wasn't picked ever except by me.

Fadedpf1 votes

Elise ever gotten fucked by an Elise recently, she had so much flat pen I was basically getting nuked with true damage.

Robert Smith1 votes

Pick Skarner and fight her in your zone

doiminat0r36001 votes

Meanwhile Ryze has a 41.15% WR

Trebbi1 votes

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Meanwhile Ryze has a 41.15% WR

Nothing good comes out when Ryze is good.

Him and Kassadin should sadly just remain undertuned because they are just to scary to buff.

Sire Hippington1 votes

and a 54.5% for players that have 125+games on him. He just got a really high skillfloor

Zavern1 votes

I haven't played since the patch, what makes him so strong?

Kingsgrave1 votes

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I haven't played since the patch, what makes him so strong?

He is currently a god at everything.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

They made him the best so people won't cry when they turn him back into the worst.

LostFr0st1 votes

Build Devourer--->Titanic hydra on him. You mow down EVERYTHING in your path.

Mordepool1 votes

Its a know issue after data collection for a week a hotfix is enroute meddler said so in juggernaut thread

Catastrop1 votes

Or, or, they could nerf one of the ones you listed. It's not exactly fair that a champion finally gets to have some time in the spotlight just to be taken out of it because there are more OP things out there.

Genorok1 votes

What's the point of having a PBE if champs can get released in a broken state like Skarner?

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