Hehe just kidding, that would require them to acknowledge that this system is a massive fuck up.
I'm pretty sure I'm seeing about 75% loss rate when there's one on my team.
Rins Thigh Socks14 votesD2 here, I've only ever played support on autofill, and as it stands I'm 14-12 on Karma and 4-2 on Nami.
I think you just might be a mediocre midlaner since your cs is always low and I only ever look you up and watch you get carried.
Eedat3 votesLol rip
Yenn6 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iirUGtQI,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-20T15:37:28.371+0000)
D2 here, I've only ever played support on autofill, and as it stands I'm 14-12 on Karma and 4-2 on Nami.
I think you just might be a mediocre midlaner since your cs is always low and I only ever look you up and watch you get carried.
You exclusively duo queued to Diamond. Stop acting like you got past Diamond V on your own.
Rins Thigh Socks4 votesYou exclusively duo queued to Diamond. Stop acting like you got past Diamond V on your own.
Lmao what are you talking about?
I'd hope with only 106 games under the belt you'd have realized this wasn't my main but I guess you really are as thick-headed as ever.
Main's got a little under 700 games, 95% pure solo games.
Diamond V is hilariously easy because I lane against players like you, lul. Once you get to D3, that's where the real fun begins.
Yenn4 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iirUGtQI,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2017-09-20T16:25:38.822+0000)
Lmao what are you talking about?
I'd hope with only 106 games under the belt you'd have realized this wasn't my main but I guess you really are as thick-headed as ever.
Main's got a little under 700 games, 95% pure solo games.
Diamond V is hilariously easy because I lane against players like you, lul. Once you get to D3, that's where the real fun begins.
Do I have to go through my post history, where I called you out on duo queuing all your ranked games at the start of the season, and you responded something like 'so what, it's not my fault you don't have friends?'
Rins Thigh Socks3 votesDo I have to go through my post history, where I called you out on duo queuing all your ranked games at the start of the season, and you responded something like 'so what, it's not my fault you don't have friends?'
I mean you can but I climbed to D5 3 other seasons before with relative ease, and this season after hitting D5 I climbed to D2 solo, so it seems like a baseless insult.
Also, I wouldn't want you to have to dig through mounds and mounds of your shitty posts. :)
Succubús GF2 votesYuck why do I share a main with assholes like you :/
Rins Thigh Socks2 votesYuck why do I share a main with assholes like you :/
There are assholes who play each and every champion.
Alas, times change and suddenly it's not cool to hate on Yenn.
The guy victimizes himself and he's been doing this one rage post at a time since this forum had an ugly yellow background years ago. Blames everything and everyone except himself for his inconsistent play.
Succubús GF5 votesDon't get me wrong I'm not a fan of Yenn but honestly are you doing better? Rank shaming is a dick move regardless of who is or isn't right. It's a lot like flaming in a game. If you both are toxic in game, it wont be excusable to the outside viewer.
Rins Thigh Socks1 votesDon't get me wrong I'm not a fan of Yenn but honestly are you doing better? Rank shaming is a dick move regardless of who is or isn't right. It's a lot like flaming in a game. If you both are toxic in game, it wont be excusable to the outside viewer.
Me: "Your cs is always low and you tend to get carried. It's not the autofilled players." Yenn: "Don't act like you're good. You got duo'd out of Diamond V so it doesn't count." Me: "I'd eat you and other Diamond V players for breakfast." You: "Man it's not cool to start rank shaming."
bro. BRO.
Also, don't you think bringing morality into a low effort shitpost by an angry ranked connoisseur excessive?
Succubús GF2 votesCalling someone mediocre and not expecting retaliation is a bit stupid. Just so you know.
Also. Acknowledge it isn't all guys that play league. You sound like a fraternity boy being a douchebag.
bro. BRO.
Don't you find being toxic generally excessive?
Also, don't you think bringing morality into a low effort shitpost by an angry ranked connoisseur excessive?
Bob the Toastr1 votesYeah, Temptress is right, he may be rude but you don't have to be rude back.
just OK jungler1 votesLMAO elo hoarder, plays decay games because you cant stay in diamond. You are d4 not d2. Even if im d5 trash, I know I wont drop to platinum so I keep playing unlike you.
Rins Thigh Socks1 votes[{quoted}](name=Rank One Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iirUGtQI,comment-id=00060002,timestamp=2017-09-21T14:29:28.203+0000)
LMAO elo hoarder, plays decay games because you cant stay in diamond. You are d4 not d2. Even if im d5 trash, I know I wont drop to platinum so I keep playing unlike you.
My main got banned on boards, and I play on that.
Let's put it this way, if I'm D4 after ~100 games, where do you think I'd fall after ~700?
Knîght1 votesd5 xd maybe even rockin the classic 49% winrate :^)
just OK jungler1 votesI would say low platinum minimum, but gold more likely.
Dokueki Kenshin6 votesHey, guys, Silver player here. With the utmost respect, I just gotta ask...
Really?
Half of this thread has turned into a shade-throwing contest right from the getgo, but that's not my main concern. My main concern is that people expect some perfect system for what has become the most widely played game on the planet.
Do yourselves a favor and make your expectations more reasonable.
Do you get your preferred role at least 60-70% of the time? Most likely, you do.
Can you make it through most champ selects without some sort of toxic experience? Even though the bad times stick out more than the good, that answer is probably yes.
Do you have players frequently requesting to play a different role because of being autofilled? While definitely not impossible, it probably doesn't happen a large percentage of the time.
Now, I would comment on queue times as well, but I do understand that queue time issues tend to fluctuate pretty severely based on rank, so I'll leave that point for another discussion.
Still, though I am only a Silver player, I've been playing since late season 1. I've been through the vast majority of this game's champ select iterations, and this one, by far, is the least toxic and most user friendly.
And for those times where we do get autofilled, remember: for all of your lauded skill as a solo player, this is a team game. Nothing will change that. Instead of getting needlessly frustrated and posting in the forums until your fingers fall off, just do your best in the role you have. If you can't carry, fine; find a way to help your team carry instead. Let the team know: "Hey, this isn't my main role. I'll do my best, but I can't make any promises." More often than not, my team is understanding when I say this.
I'm certain Riot is watching these forums. I'm certain they're noting people's concerns. And while they are not above reproach (I was also here for the solo-queue debacle), they definitely do their best to learn their lessons. Changes in iterations to a system as core to the game as matchmaking cannot be rushed. They require meticulous planning, drafting, redrafting, alpha testing, beta testing, etc.
To summarize, it's not perfect, but it could be MUCH worse. I still shiver at the old solo-queue system. Arguing practically every game for the role you wanted...
Yenn3 votes[{quoted}](name=Dokueki Kenshin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iirUGtQI,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-09-20T22:04:22.373+0000)
Hey, guys, Silver player here. With the utmost respect, I just gotta ask...
Really?
Half of this thread has turned into a shade-throwing contest right from the getgo, but that's not my main concern. My main concern is that people expect some perfect system for what has become the most widely played game on the planet.
Do yourselves a favor and make your expectations more reasonable.
Do you get your preferred role at least 60-70% of the time? Most likely, you do.
Can you make it through most champ selects without some sort of toxic experience? Even though the bad times stick out more than the good, that answer is probably yes.
Do you have players frequently requesting to play a different role because of being autofilled? While definitely not impossible, it probably doesn't happen a large percentage of the time.
Now, I would comment on queue times as well, but I do understand that queue time issues tend to fluctuate pretty severely based on rank, so I'll leave that point for another discussion.
Still, though I am only a Silver player, I've been playing since late season 1. I've been through the vast majority of this game's champ select iterations, and this one, by far, is the least toxic and most user friendly.
And for those times where we do get autofilled, remember: for all of your lauded skill as a solo player, this is a team game. Nothing will change that. Instead of getting needlessly frustrated and posting in the forums until your fingers fall off, just do your best in the role you have. If you can't carry, fine; find a way to help your team carry instead. Let the team know: "Hey, this isn't my main role. I'll do my best, but I can't make any promises." More often than not, my team is understanding when I say this.
I'm certain Riot is watching these forums. I'm certain they're noting people's concerns. And while they are not above reproach (I was also here for the solo-queue debacle), they definitely do their best to learn their lessons. Changes in iterations to a system as core to the game as matchmaking cannot be rushed. They require meticulous planning, drafting, redrafting, alpha testing, beta testing, etc.
To summarize, it's not perfect, but it could be MUCH worse. I still shiver at the old solo-queue system. Arguing practically every game for the role you wanted...
If you want games to be least toxic and user friendly, stick to normals. Ranked is the competitive game mode. Everyone queuing for it should have the expectations of a good, evenly matched game, with relatively similar skill levels, and all players doing their best to win.
But either way, like you mentioned, the reason you see auto-fill this way is exclusively because you're Silver. Auto-fill isn't detrimental at lower ratings because everyone is (somewhat) bad at their role and most games are a clusterfuck of mistake after mistake.
Once you start forcing a Diamond support main into top lane against a Diamond top main, shit hits the fan and the game quality tanks as there's a 15-0 Jax not making any mistakes that allow you to recover the game.
R0XTAR1 votesIf you want games to be least toxic and user friendly, stick to normals. Ranked is the competitive game mode. Everyone queuing for it should have the expectations of a good, evenly matched game, with relatively similar skill levels, and all players doing their best to win.
But either way, like you mentioned, the reason you see auto-fill this way is exclusively because you're Silver. Auto-fill isn't detrimental at lower ratings because everyone is (somewhat) bad at their role and most games are a clusterfuck of mistake after mistake.
Once you start forcing a Diamond support main into top lane against a Diamond top main, shit hits the fan and the game quality tanks as there's a 15-0 Jax not making any mistakes that allow you to recover the game.
Now, Im another Silver player here sir.
But this is the shittiest argument i have ever seen IN MY LIFE. I solely play ADC and support with a passion, yeah? I might be silver, but I have played against all tiers from Bronze to Diamond and kick their ass in lane.
"Once you face a diamond support" doesn't mean shit with statistics. It matters how you do in your next game. I could go 0-0-900 as Thresh in one game and have a shit game and go 0-90-4 in the next.
And like my Silver friend said, it is a TEAM game. It's not impossible for a Diamond support main to go top as a support and still crush. That person that was autofilled can always rotate and roam mid or botside to help out the team, they dont need to stay in lane and die.
I might also be a lowly silver player, but if you can't handle the autofill in Diamond, you should go to another game. They incorporated it for a reason; it is here to stay.
Autofill won't leave because one person such as yourself whines. You think this is bad? Go back to dynamic queue where things were MUCH worse.
It could be worse, and if you bitch and moan? Next year will be worse.
P.S. Please come at me with some salt. Don't stop now. [slayer-jinx-wink]
Hèntaî 1 votesI like you, you understand how it really be.
Hèntaî 1 votesIn Diamond I would kinda expect you to be at least decent with any other role. I mean, y'all know the system is gonna hit you at some point and yet you all complain when it happens and blame the system because you either didnt know how to play the role or you tilted yourself because you have to play one game without your main or whatever. Honestly, autofill isnt as bad as people say. There is 100+ champions in the game, each one has at least one champ thats similar or that can play the role of support(Just an example) like 
(Situational)
etc.. And if you are losing games due to being autofilled then you really should go into the practice tool for like 10 minutes(Depending on how fast you learn a champ) and practice a champ or two for all roles/lanes.
HR5OdeMImE3 votesIn Diamond I would kinda expect you to be at least decent with any other role.
This is a myth btw.
Bob the Toastr1 votesYeah, but "decent" at a role isn't going to cut it against someone who mains that role. I'm "decent" at support, meaning I play an enchanter, buy this 
and this 
and this
, but that doesn't mean I know all the best locations for wards, I don't know how to trade effectively as a support, mostly I just sit there and shield when they go in. Someone who mains support would have much better knowledge of the role and the best warding locations and how to trade well etc. (I'm not Diamond but I'm just saying)
Hèntaî 1 votesI understand where you are coming from but decent would be more than enough, even against a support main. Lets take 
as an example, all you need to really know is when and when not to engage and using your stun when you need to and keeping off the enemy team so that your adc or whoever else can butt touch the enemy team. It doesnt take long to learn ward placement either, as for the trading thing I guess that all goes into who you are playing. Games would be a whole lot smoother if people took the time to learn a thing or two about the other roles. As another example, you could cheese and play 
. Idk if any of that made any sense, if not Ill try to rephrase it all
Edit: Forgot to mention that if you have an adc that likes to go balls to the wall for no reason, then I am sorry for who you got matched with.
Very Hard Engage4 votesit would be cool if auto fill was removed and everyone only got to play their main role about 20% of the time anyway, and you played support about 20% of the time. (determined by pick order)
but hell, newer diamond players are better for it nowadays that they are pampered little princes and princesses getting the role they want all the time and only very rarely other.
im 95% sure half of diamond would fall out overnight.
oh, and screw games where you get 3 jungle / support mains on your team and no mid laner.
jadelink4 votesThe system is SO much better than the old days, where effective autofill was even more common, AND one in three lobbies collapsed due to rage over role picks. People don't remember how bad it used to be before we had this. The 5th pick was autofilled to support unless a sup volunteer (victim really, back in the days of supports being miserable to play) was there.
The game happens to be insanely snow-bally, and spiral out of control really fast. This makes games look far more imbalanced than they are, if you put a few pounds of weight on one side it gets a few tons of power behind it super fast. If/when they get rid of jungle comback the issue will compound. Can't wait for all the posts complaining that their jungler is useless, never ganks and is a 0-5 tank vs kayn.
velraptured3 votesI'd rather wait a whole 20 minutes in queue for a game than to have a game put together by this craptastic matchmaking system.
Xion The XIV3 votesThey will never do that, because then they will have to admit they Failed at doing something. When you see Auto filled having like 20% win rates that would be forcing them to admit they failed at something.
Kloqdq3 votesI mean it's weird. I am just that guy that happily fills in for people if they got autofilled. Got to be others that would do the same?
Hèntaî 1 votesEveryone needs to play their one-trick so they cant give up their lane. I remember when I was told by tons of people in my ranked matches a back in s4 that I needed to learn 1 or 2 champs for each lane/role just in case I didnt get what I wanted so that I could have a back up.
Kloqdq1 votesSince the new champion select that is just some advise people have forget. I play every role as much as I can so if I do get that, I can actually lane well enough to not suck. OTP can be a trap for some because they just learn the champion but nothing else. Tobias Fate was the same for example. Challenger GP; Low Diamond everything else..
chipndip13 votesYou're mid plat...
forist3 votesAuto-fill is fine. The main issue right now is that multiple people can be auto-filled on the same team. It should be limited to one auto-filled player per team, and for the sake of fairness each team should have one auto-filled player.
option paralysis2 votesyu hev to kno hov to pley 5 roles in dumond. amirite hehe
Seriously tho, when I dropped from d2 to d5, I'm pretty sure I had autofillers in 80% of games.
Ahri Inari2 votesBut remove auto-fill janna in statistic.
Whiteeye Avelyn2 votesGetting auto filled one in a while is worth getting my role the other 80%. Plus pick order was bitched and moaned about until they got rid of it and now people are bitching again. Welcome to the boards everyone enjoy you stay.
Morticianjohn2 votesEveryone should know how to play their off roles. The one tricks who can't play another role will get weeded out eventually and the versatile players will move up.
Salron1 votesThat would make a lot of sense if high elo wasn't absolutely infested with otps
Gesterr1 votesPlaying devil's advocate, for majority og this game's existence your role was even less gaurenteed than under role-select/autofill system and with much more champ select arguing
Zone of Endless1 votes[{quoted}](name=General Jester,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iirUGtQI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-20T14:23:55.417+0000)
Playing devil's advocate, for majority og this game's existence your role was even less gaurenteed than under role-select/autofill system and with much more champ select arguing
How do you know this? I've had my fair share of this before role selection, but at least people were calling out their main role/secondary role or their worst and communicate so we'd get our most preferred role for better chance at winning. Now I'd rarely see people ask to trade and you dont know who's autofilled or not.
Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votesthey should never have pushed out role selection knowing how hard supp players would be limiting the system
Celestial Lion121 votesso you want 10 minute queue times unless you're playing support
Yenn1 votesStill waiting for those numbers.
Just had the privilege of watching our auto-filled jungle feed the shit out of the enemy team.
Yenn1 votesJust lost three games in a row to auto-filled players feeding horribly. I'm pretty sure I'm at 100% loss rate over the past 3 days, when my team has one of these.
Yenn1 votesSpot the auto-filled players
https://i.imgur.com/fp5XSmP.jpg
I just got demoted because I've had this shit in my past four games.
