@Riot, have you ever considered adding more decision making when it comes to taking Baron?

ABlueQuaker··1 votes·409 views

So I was sitting in a Custom against a few bots getting fed so I could try an off-META build on Udyr (Mercs, TriForce, FH, Gunblade, SV, Rageblade) for fun, and then I tried Soloing Baron with it. While I was taking it I realized that minion waves in the side lanes were building up and getting pretty close to my turrets and I thought "geez I'd be screwed if there were actually Player-Controlled Enemy Champions".

This got me thinking - what if there was more decision making when it comes to taking Baron? Right now, it's a matter of, "Can we take Baron safely?" Yes - take Baron. No - continue playing until the answer is yes. After a team takes Baron, they can then play super offensively with a rather large statistical advantage. The only strategy left against a Baron'ed-up team is to play cautiously and wait it out, or hope they make a mistake.

This in turn got me thinking - should Baron be purely offensively tuned? Right now, there's no weakness to taking Baron. It's a power play with no strategical disadvantage. You take it and you dominate and snowball while you have it.

But what if a team with Baron who will undoubtedly want to group and teamfight was vulnerable to the anti-teamfight of tactics - splitpushing. What if while a team has baron, their structures become more vulnerable to attack?

Food for thought.

This will probably get a lot of hate from people who think Baron should be an advantage and nothing else. I'm just pointing out that it could be a strategy not a power-play. Baron should be to sieging what activating righteous glory/talisman is to starting a teamfight. If you get Baron for the sake of getting Baron, there should be some way to punish lack of execution by the team who got it.

5 Comments

Dreadlocks1 votes

Taking Baron is already a risk..

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Sneaking a Baron is a risk.

That's what I mean. There's strategy behind taking it, and then there's counter-strategy that currently doesn't exist. Right now all you can do is minimize its effectiveness and try to survive it.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

No, any time you try and take Baron unless the whole enemy team is dead and won't respawn until after you finish killing it is a risk

Dreadlocks1 votes

The point is.. if you take a big enough risk where you could lose your entire team and the buff itself.. you should be rewarded with an all around good buff.. not something that makes you weak too.

64931067_DEL1 votes

How many pros death at Baron's pit? How many games in which the behind team can turn the table after a Baron? The risk while you taking Baron is HUGE, so the benefits after taking that Baron must be worth. EDIT: And Rito even nerf Baron's Buff more than 1 times...

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