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preternatural6 votes

-trying something new -ranked heh

Demon King Maou3 votes

By queing up for Soloque/Duo you agree to deal with off meta because it is "Part of the game" If you dislike this go to flex where you can have handpicked besties that never go off meta. Also, If offmeta was banned a majority of korea would be banned too since everytime you look over there they have some weird ass shit like Nocturne item 3301 and make it work.

Me and many others would also be banned because "Playing poke mages support is offmeta"

Everything at one point was off meta just like SUPPORT WASN'T A THING FOR THE LONGEST TIME!

Ragnaveil4 votes

No one said or has said poke mages support are offmeta. Some shouldn't exist in botlane, but thats a different issue entirely that also means its not offmeta.

Demon King Maou5 votes

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No one said or has said poke mages support are offmeta. Some shouldn't exist in botlane, but thats a different issue entirely that also means its not offmeta.

Ah, But in season five it was off meta. See what i mean there? Everything at one point was offmeta but slowly becomes meta if many people use it. Saying "Ban all off meta" Literally just means the game will stagnate and nothing will be changed because nobody wants to be banned.

Ragnaveil4 votes

What is meta or off meta changes by season. Right now tanks in top are very offmeta, when back in S7 and beginning of S8 you'd see them almost every match.

ProExpertKing2 votes

Dude, even in season 4 shit like Lux and Morgana bot lane were super meta. Lux was my second support champion I used even if people got really mad that I did so much damage I would accidentally steal the kill a lot. Like I'm sorry q, e, auto was enough to kill the sona at level 2. My account is only level 12, give me a break. I started building shit tons of warmogs cause they stacked and it made it easy to give the kill to the adc but not die if I get caught out or something. I mean even Lulu is a poke mage support and she was back in season 2.

What you mean is stuff like Brand, Veigar, and Fiddlesticks which are NOT supports, just some random ass mage plocked down in botlane because spellthief allows it and it's really hard to make it so that you kick them out while leaving in lux, morg, karma, and lulu.

One of the main things too is that when Brand and Fiddlesticks were becoming popular support picks, most people did it in normals first and ranked stayed mostly on meta while norms turned into a fucking horrible hellscape of someone wanting to play soraka and instantly dying every time they got to turret. Then it slowly bled into ranked as it became the norm. That is entirely different from "I'm gonna do ultimate bravery in ranked"

Sure it's off meta to go ap trist. Should you test it out for the first time in ranked? Fuck no you shouldn't! That makes you an asshole because you bring down your entire team if it doesn't go too well.

General Esdeath 4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Demon King Maou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-26T22:40:11.436+0000)

By queing up for Soloque/Duo you agree to deal with off meta because it is "Part of the game" If you dislike this go to flex where you can have handpicked besties that never go off meta. Also, If offmeta was banned a majority of korea would be banned too since everytime you look over there they have some weird ass shit like Nocturne item 3301 and make it work.

Me and many others would also be banned because "Playing poke mages support is offmeta"

Everything at one point was off meta just like SUPPORT WASN'T A THING FOR THE LONGEST TIME!

This was flex https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVnbvZhXDPVdFBNcVQ-KDEl2ng4jBNygn7_N0D_T_jXX8X8MNt

Hi im 123 votes

complaining about flex lmao

General Esdeath 3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-07-27T12:19:42.755+0000)

complaining about flex lmao

Username checks out

Hi im 122 votes

true, a weeb with muh waifi name taking shit online too seriously

2Charmnot2Charm4 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-07-26T23:04:54.204+0000)

This was flex

Then by all means he can try champs and off meta stuff as much as he wants (Off meta being champs in certain roles, not abandoning the role you queue for)

Flex is a joke queue that shouldn't be taken seriously ever.

General Esdeath 3 votes

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Then by all means he can try champs and off meta stuff as much as he wants (Off meta being champs in certain roles, not abandoning the role you queue for)

Flex is a joke queue that shouldn't be taken seriously ever.

Yeah no, some of us do want to rank up in flex for ranked rewards. Go to normals if you want to try troll builds for shits and giggles.

2Charmnot2Charm3 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2019-07-27T19:13:50.448+0000)

Yeah no, some of us do want to rank up in flex for ranked rewards. Go to normals if you want to try troll builds for shits and giggles.

And no one is stopping you from ranking up, its easier to do so in flex because like i have already said it's a joke queue where you don't have to try AT ALL to get to the elo you want since no one takes it serious.

Flex is the same as Normal with a leaderboard attached to it, and there is nothing you can say that will change my (and everyone who gives zero shit about flex) mind.

Btw Solo lane Trist isn't troll, check the meta before you even complain [zombie-brand-facepalm]

General Esdeath 2 votes

Ah yes, it's so meta that she went 1/8

Damn, that's the most effective tactic available. Oh wait....it's not...it's not even viable unless you're fighting a tank...which she wasn't...so uh....yeah awkward.

2Charmnot2Charm4 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=000100010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T21:16:08.165+0000)

not even viable unless you're fighting a tank...which she wasn't...so uh....yeah awkward.

uNlEsS yOu'rE fIGhTIng a tANk

https://clips.twitch.tv/HealthyTriumphantCrabsDAESuppy

News flash it's been Meta in high elo for weeks already.

General Esdeath 3 votes

iN hIgH eLo

this is pro play, a totally different game. And this ranked game in my post is not high elo. Did Caps just try it for the first time then and there, on stage?

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=00010001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T22:07:13.475+0000)

iN hIgH eLo

this is pro play

Oh great, do you want me to also go get clips of caps, faker and other high elo players playing vs and as this in solo queue because you can't comprehend that your teammate was really testing a new Meta pick IN FLEX, i can do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH4j0WjL80Y

https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=g2%20caps%2001

https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=TheShackledOne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdd9_SjM1kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tmzElxeevg

Wait, why did i even bother doing that when you could clearly see in the twitch clip that what caps did is something that ANYONE can do when enemy jungler isn't around? Where does the "it's pro play" excuse come in?

Last message I will be reading from you, can't be bothered with someone that takes Flex queue seriously.

General Esdeath 3 votes

"I'm gonna ignore you because you take a ranked queue seriously"

ok, cya

LPelican 1 votes

hey dude i have this problem, i went 1/8 on yasuo and 3/9 on vladimir the other day, does that mean they are off meta? Just asking because you seem really smart. Thanks!

General Esdeath 2 votes

Nope, it means you didn't do good on a champ where the majority do fine on them.

Unless you were trying lifesteal Vlad jg or something

LPelican 1 votes

b-b-b-- but a lot of people succeed in tristana mid and top, EX pro player Rush who is challenger every season plays tristana jungle sometimes

General Esdeath 1 votes

And he's a pro player, so if you're in gold, I don't think you're gonna make the cut. Sorry, that's just how it is.

LPelican 1 votes

so only pro players can change the meta? so sad

DarkTree15 votes

[{quoted}](name=Demon King Maou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-26T22:40:11.436+0000)

By queing up for Soloque/Duo you agree to deal with off meta because it is "Part of the game" If you dislike this go to flex where you can have handpicked besties that never go off meta. Also, If offmeta was banned a majority of korea would be banned too since everytime you look over there they have some weird ass shit like Nocturne item 3301 and make it work.

Me and many others would also be banned because "Playing poke mages support is offmeta"

Everything at one point was off meta just like SUPPORT WASN'T A THING FOR THE LONGEST TIME!

running it down mid with tears and mobis is just a part of the game and not accepting my strategy is why we're losing

Algido1 votes

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running it down mid with tears and mobis is just a part of the game and not accepting my strategy is why we're losing

Intentionally feeding, even if considered a strat, does not follow the summoner's code. Between the code and TOU, we are already severely limited in what we are allowed to do. More and more people are becoming SO sensitive that it's actually an option now to turn off chat because "words are violence" due to [explitive deleted]s getting their widdle fefes huwt. Let me sincerely ask you an honest question. Do you think we need more government regulations (assuming you live in The United States of America)?

DarkTree12 votes

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Intentionally feeding, even if considered a strat, does not follow the summoner's code. Between the code and TOU, we are already severely limited in what we are allowed to do. More and more people are becoming SO sensitive that it's actually an option now to turn off chat because "words are violence" due to [explitive deleted]s getting their widdle fefes huwt. Let me sincerely ask you an honest question. Do you think we need more government regulations (assuming you live in The United States of America)?

are you okay dude i just wanted to make a joke about inting

Pika Fox3 votes

Ikr? That shyv is an asshole.

General Esdeath 3 votes

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Ikr? That shyv is an asshole.

Why? Because she wanted our top laner to play something viable and not go 1-8 with 80 CS in a 20 minute game? This is called "not trying", and it's griefing under the report category.

Pika Fox3 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-27T19:13:20.084+0000)

Why? Because she wanted our top laner to play something viable and not go 1-8 with 80 CS in a 20 minute game? This is called "not trying", and it's griefing under the report category.

Because shyv thinks her opinion matters. Its not her pick, she has no say. If they wanna first time ranked, they can.

And no, its not griefing. Shyv can be reported for verbal abuse, however, if you wanna go the report route.

General Esdeath 2 votes

"X thinks their opinion matters" that's kinda how a community works, a collection of opinions. That's like saying you have no say in me running down mid because it's not your KDA.

That's not verbal abuse. Verbal abuse would be an insult. I'm looking hard but I don't see an insult in that picture, do you?

Pika Fox2 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T21:19:38.685+0000)

"X thinks their opinion matters" that's kinda how a community works, a collection of opinions. That's like saying you have no say in me running down mid because it's not your KDA.

That's not verbal abuse. Verbal abuse would be an insult. I'm looking hard but I don't see an insult in that picture, do you?

I mean, you really dont get a choice in someone else running it down. That one is reportable, though. First timing something in ranked is not.

Just gunna hazard a guess in that this isnt the entire conversation, and a snippet of what was previously said is going to include some form of verbal abuse towards the trist. Just a wild guess.

General Esdeath 3 votes

If you're trying something you have no experience on, you're clearly not trying to win. That's reportable.

"Trist top doesn't seem to be working out too well" isn't verbal abuse either though. Unless you confuse criticism/observations as verbal abuse

http://i.imgur.com/TkWB3lt.png

Pika Fox4 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T22:05:50.267+0000)

If you're trying something you have no experience on, you're clearly not trying to win. That's reportable.

"Trist top doesn't seem to be working out too well" isn't verbal abuse either though. Unless you confuse criticism/observations as verbal abuse

http://i.imgur.com/TkWB3lt.png

Yeah, no. You can still play to win without having experience doing the thing youre doing.

And yeah, thats getting towards the verbal abuse category. Theres no reason to make that remark in particular towards trist. Exactly zero. Thats not a proper constructive criticism, thats just shirking blame to a player not currently performing the greatest without any bearing on the game itself or what could be done to salvage the situation.

General Esdeath 3 votes

"Doesn't seem to be working out" isn't blame. Blame would be;

"Wow we're losing because this fucking idiot picked Trist top"

Sorry, I know you don't like criticism but it's a part of reality, and we all criticize even on the boards. Next time someone on Player Behavior boards tells someone they're being toxic, remember that you're criticizing their chat logs and their actions.

Pika Fox1 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T22:46:44.818+0000)

"Doesn't seem to be working out" isn't blame. Blame would be;

"Wow we're losing because this fucking idiot picked Trist top"

Sorry, I know you don't like criticism but it's a part of reality, and we all criticize even on the boards. Next time someone on Player Behavior boards tells someone they're being toxic, remember that you're criticizing their chat logs and their actions.

Thats not criticism. It does nothing other than potentially tilt someone. Its not positive at all or even a useful suggestion.

General Esdeath 2 votes

That's criticism, as they're being criticized by someone who is being a critic. If that's flame, then god damn there's a lot of flame in high elo and LCS and boards.

Pika Fox1 votes

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That's criticism, as they're being criticized by someone who is being a critic. If that's flame, then god damn there's a lot of flame in high elo and LCS and boards.

Funny how theres no objective statements or suggestions other than passive aggressively saying "youre feeding".

invisiblecat13 votes

Were they doing Tristana top?

Played against one of those earlier, who proceeded to go 0/3/0 and afk for the rest of the match Checked their match history afterwards, and this was their second time doing this, and both times were in ranked

General Esdeath 1 votes

Yep

Demon King Maou2 votes

Is named after one of the most cruel people in anime https://medievalotaku.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/vlcsnap-2014-09-25-22h08m07s176.png Gets mad over off meta.

[slayer-jinx-wink] ?

Ragnaveil18 votes

I mean, doing off meta shit in ranked with little hope in it succeeding is bound to piss people off. Its like when a random adc picks Kalista in this current meta: They will likely never exist unless they are gigasmurf.

Krispy Cack4 votes

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I mean, doing off meta shit in ranked with little hope in it succeeding is bound to piss people off. Its like when a random adc picks Kalista in this current meta: They will likely never exist unless they are gigasmurf.

doing off meta should be against the rules, sadly it isn't.

Algido1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Krispy Cack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-26T22:37:16.299+0000)

doing off meta should be against the rules, sadly it isn't.

You can't be serious? So you want Riot, in all their glorious brilliance they have demonstrated in the last 4 seasons to only allow certain champs to be played in certain roles? Why have ~140 champs if only ~25 can be played (let's say 5 per role)? FUN! Should we all be required to have some kind of social worker to hold our hands irl while waiting to respawn?

Krispy Cack4 votes

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You can't be serious? So you want Riot, in all their glorious brilliance they have demonstrated in the last 4 seasons to only allow certain champs to be played in certain roles? Why have ~140 champs if only ~25 can be played (let's say 5 per role)? FUN! Should we all be required to have some kind of social worker to hold our hands irl while waiting to respawn?

uh yes?

hey guys, i'm going soraka jg and my friend going ashe mid. haha we cannot get in trouble for it sucks for you azzholes, enjoy the lp loss.

Phreaktastic2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Krispy Cack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-27T19:53:51.197+0000)

uh yes?

hey guys, i'm going soraka jg and my friend going ashe mid. haha we cannot get in trouble for it sucks for you azzholes, enjoy the lp loss.

What's worse? One loss and thus one game's worth of LP loss, or a constant mindset/paradigm which is dishing out consistent losses? I'd take the one loss and move on, knowing full-well that the real victims are you and your friend. You sure showed me.

Krispy Cack2 votes

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What's worse? One loss and thus one game's worth of LP loss, or a constant mindset/paradigm which is dishing out consistent losses? I'd take the one loss and move on, knowing full-well that the real victims are you and your friend. You sure showed me.

what? one loss? most of the time people play meta and don't troll. what the hell you talking about.

Phreaktastic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Krispy Cack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T20:32:42.507+0000)

what? one loss? most of the time people play meta and don't troll. what the hell you talking about.

Yep. That was the whole point. Your troll crusade of "mE aNd My FrIeNd QuEuE bAd We ShOw YoOoUuU!!!~!" was hilarious because that would be one loss you give to others, and many losses you give to yourselves. /whooooooosh

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iHVUklyF,comment-id=0001000100010000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-28T20:56:00.855+0000)

And he's a pro player, so if you're in gold, I don't think you're gonna make the cut. Sorry, that's just how it is.

I hear all pro players start ranked at Challenger, even before they become pros. I also hear that high rank players never have smurf accounts.

Demon King Maou2 votes

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I mean, doing off meta shit in ranked with little hope in it succeeding is bound to piss people off. Its like when a random adc picks Kalista in this current meta: They will likely never exist unless they are gigasmurf.

https://371fay42aye4317r9d1rzsys-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/2016/07/Hench-smurf.jpg Did somebody say... Smurf?

A more common name for this is

Ahem

#PREREWORKPOPPY http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1437263594/Lollipoppy.jpg

General Esdeath 4 votes

{quoted}

I mean, doing off meta shit in ranked with little hope in it succeeding is bound to piss people off. Its like when a random adc picks Kalista in this current meta: They will likely never exist unless they are gigasmurf.

I pick Kalista :( I do fine, you just have to pick the right support and runes. Don't take her with Yuumi, but with a Thresh. PTA is good but tempo works based on who you're fighting as/against. Kalista in her role isn't bad, but playing something out of role, out of build, and with bad runes is just trolling.

Colte1 votes

{quoted}

I mean, doing off meta shit in ranked with little hope in it succeeding is bound to piss people off. Its like when a random adc picks Kalista in this current meta: They will likely never exist unless they are gigasmurf.

please give kalista a skin so we can play kalista

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